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The Ten Lost Tribes: The Case for Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Pakistan
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Posted on 09/24/2001 8:53:22 AM PDT by xzins

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To: Free Vulcan
Israel was forcefully marched to the northern reached of the Assyrian empire around 800BC. Around that time two groups rose up in that area, which split into what are often termed Aryans and Scythians.

Ha Ha! incredibly funny. Aryans date from way way before that time -- the Hittites were Aryans and Aryans moved into India around 1700 BC or earlier. Scyths also are first mentioned of c1000 BC
61 posted on 08/11/2004 10:08:38 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: khaqan_khawaja; hellinahandcart; Owl_Eagle; aculeus; dighton
how dare you insult our prophet, one looks on how prophets were, muhammad did not attack other but he defended his followers from the pagans etc. no christian i have seen in the past history from all sources i have seen has been peaceful to muslims, its been convert or die, move jesus who was our prophet out the equation and look at his so called followers or lets say worshippors and drunken colleagues who he himself would be infuriated with. tell me what are the connections between pakistan and israel you fool? i have been commented i look spanish when im pakistani, ones intellectual level must be balanced and not reduced to the simple facts of apearances of others. come on thats the way a premature child would think, o they look similar when in fact they dont so they must be the same. this world is a big one and many people may be alike. dont dare insult my prophet again or the next post will be full of swearwords a very unorthodox manner.

Heh...

62 posted on 08/11/2004 10:30:46 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: khaqan_khawaja

Islam ravaged the middle east and slaughtered millions -- as it does right now. Tell me, in Afghanistan or Pakistan, if someone converts from Islam out of a choice of her/his heart, what happens? He will be executed. Isn't that correct?


63 posted on 08/11/2004 10:33:05 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: khaqan_khawaja; Thinkin' Gal
Hi fake insider troll!  This is some of your nicest work yet!  You really got into character here.
 
The connection between Israel and Pakistan is that they were both created as a homeland for religious groups.  Still you don't see people lining up to destroy Pakistan, do you?
Here's a question for you:  What do Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Israel, Iran, Kashmir, Kosovo, Nigeria, Philippines, and the Sudan have in common?
A)  They are all examples of muslims getting along with non muslims
B)  They are all examples of muslims warring against non muslims.
C)  They are all countries where innocents suffering from muslim oppression.
(HINT:  The answer isn't A)

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

64 posted on 08/11/2004 10:42:25 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (“Cocaine is a powerful drug, b*tches.” R.I.P. Rick James.)
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To: xzins

bfl


65 posted on 08/11/2004 11:55:47 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: xzins; Shermy

The Jews are one of the lost tribes of the Hindus.


66 posted on 08/11/2004 11:57:10 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: xzins

bump


67 posted on 08/11/2004 12:12:16 PM PDT by xone
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To: khaqan_khawaja; Cronos

What's your opinion of the view that the Kaaba is really a Shiva Lingam expropriated by the Mohammadans as a matter of simple expediency for some physical manifestation of the newly formed religion? Any truth to it?.


68 posted on 08/11/2004 12:21:05 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: xzins

Funny how we went through the entire effort in Afghanistan and nobody pointed any of this out. I did feel a certain bond with the Pashtun that I didn't feel with any of the rest of the middle east. Interesting. Makes you wonder if the muzzies hate the Judah-ites so much because they refused to knuckle under. Heck, that's why the rest of the world hates them (except for those of us who don't).


69 posted on 08/11/2004 12:38:22 PM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; khaqan_khawaja; hellinahandcart; Owl_Eagle; dighton
move jesus who was our prophet out the equation and look at his so called followers or lets say worshippors and drunken colleagues who he himself would be infuriated with

Especially if they attended a recent wedding in the Philippines.

70 posted on 08/11/2004 12:42:08 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: WoofDog123
genetic tags with higher incidence in groups suspected of having jewish origin.

That doesn't sound too good... Could enable a final solution to the Jewish Question.
71 posted on 08/11/2004 12:50:50 PM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: aculeus; dighton; Lijahsbubbe
Especially if they attended a recent wedding in the Philippines.

Mmmmm....

72 posted on 08/11/2004 12:53:25 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: swarthyguy
What's your opinion of the view that the Kaaba is really a Shiva Lingam expropriated by the Mohammadans as a matter of simple expediency for some physical manifestation of the newly formed religion? Any truth to it?.

It's possible -- Mohammed took the aspects of ARabic paganaism (Allah was an early ARabic pagan God with two daughters -- interestingly those two daughters of allah were sanctioned worship in the early part of hte Koran, later on Mo got more influenced by the Jews and tried to make his cult monotheistic)
73 posted on 08/11/2004 3:04:23 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Lowell
know they say they are of Abraham, Ishmul and Jacob (Isreal). But, if they are of Abraham, they would know Christ who came not to the "lost" ten tribes, but to the lost three tribes in the land of Isreal. The ten tribes were not deported but departed from under the son of Soloman to avoid the consequences of the continued policies of Soloman, they did God's will, as they are doing today. Interesting but untrue!

Do what now?
74 posted on 08/12/2004 9:47:03 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: xzins

So Ben-jamin was the other tribe besides Judah that was not lost? Would they have been people like the Samarians and Galileans in the new temple era? IOW, was Jesus raised around Benjamin-ites, or was he fully of and surrounded by Judah-ites?


75 posted on 08/12/2004 9:49:39 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: johnb838; OrthodoxPresbyterian; P-Marlowe
Actually, there were no lost bloodlines from any of the tribes due to the Assyrian dispersion. This is because Solomon's son, Rehoboam, ruled unwisely and enabled Jeroboam to break David's kingdom into 2 kingdoms: the northern 10 Tribes and the southern 2 tribes.

A little-remembered passage from 2 Chronicles 11 says: 13 The priests and Levites from all their districts throughout Israel sided with him. 14 The Levites even abandoned their pasturelands and property, and came to Judah and Jerusalem because Jeroboam and his sons had rejected them as priests of the LORD . 15 And he appointed his own priests for the high places and for the goat and calf idols he had made. 16 Those from every tribe of Israel who set their hearts on seeking the LORD , the God of Israel, followed the Levites to Jerusalem to offer sacrifices to the LORD , the God of their fathers. 17 They strengthened the kingdom of Judah and supported Rehoboam son of Solomon three years, walking in the ways of David and Solomon during this time.

As you can see there were no tribal bloodlines lost from any of the 12 tribes.

What was lost were those actual people who were scattered whereever the Assyrians sent them....perhaps some eventually to Afghan and Pakistan. This article lists some of the facts supporting that thesis.

So....the dispersed tribes were lost, and we shouldn't be absolutely astounded to find different "jewish" customs among some of the other nations in those regions.

However...the bloodlines were not lost, and in that sense there were no lost tribes.

76 posted on 08/12/2004 11:05:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Havoc

I would really love to see it (the documentry about Jews in Pakistan and Afghanishtan). I have heard it was shown on TV sometime ago but I may be wrong. I am willing to rent it or purchase it. Please help me find it anyone.


77 posted on 08/19/2004 11:52:50 PM PDT by curiousman
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To: curiousman
Here you go. From A&E home video. I have a copy here that I've just about warn out lol.
78 posted on 08/20/2004 12:10:55 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Floyd R Turbo

I didn't find it a piece of propaganda. They examine the evidence. They point to the scriptural evidences and look at the current world evidence side by side with it in trying to make judgements about the current names of places as inferred from the language of those that rule there now.. Did you watch it? Because I have a lot of detailed information that I took down in notes with regard to facts that were mentioned as a matter of good investigative technique. They didn't just assume a bunch of stuff, make it up or pull it out of the ether and start spewing it with no support. They investigated, put the evidence next to the story they have and draw conclusions based on the evidence.

Propaganda indeed. Do you have some agenda?


80 posted on 09/05/2004 1:05:18 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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