What I expect from American Muslims

Vanity | 9/19/01 | Antoninus

[Antoninus]

An insidious, monstrous criminal atrocity has been committed against our country. There's now little doubt that this barbaric act was committed by fanatical Muslims as part of a jihad against the 'Great Satan' America. In the aftermath, we are treated to platitudinous and largely unnecessary calls for Americans to exercise 'restraint' and not take out our anger against other Americans who happen to be of the same religious extraction as the maniacs who perpetrated this act. These calls for restraint could be made unnecessary if American Muslims would simply do the following...

Convene a very public, nationally televised 'town hall' meeting of Muslim clerics and high-ranking officials with in their communities around the country. Within this public forum, allow presenter after presenter to state unequivocably that they:

1. Decry the dastardly attack on the World Trade Centers in no uncertain terms.

2. Declare to be false and pernicious the notion that a murderous, suicidal death leads one's soul to heaven. State in no uncertain terms that this teaching is contrary to true Islam.

3. Renounce the use of terroist violence to achieve political ends, and call for ALL foreign governments to do the same.

4. State publicly that they support the right of the United States to wage war against those nations and groups which harbor and abet terrorism whether they be Muslim or otherwise.

5. Put forth a dire warning to the terrorist cells that may be in their midst that Muslim-Americans will not think twice about turning these perfidious scoundrels over to the US government.

6. Mention that any public celebration of these attacks by Muslim-Americans is a deplorable act which harms not only the Muslim community, but America as a whole.

What I don't want to hear in relation to this is one single word about:

1. How this would never have happened if the US didn't support Israel.

2. How our 'imperialist' oppression of Arab nations brought on this attack.

3. Any kind of justification for terrorist barbarism.

Individual statements along these lines have surfaced here and there, but until the Muslim community as a whole does this in a very public fashion, I will have to view them with some suspicion. The mere fact that we haven't seen more of these kinds of statements indicates to me (and I hope I'm wrong on this) that there is decent amount of clandestine approval of the attack within the Muslim-American community...

[FITZ]

Where are the articles about all the murdered Muslims? I have read of no murdered Muslims at all. Arson? I'm not convinced of that anymore after those ministers were caught setting fire to their own churches. I'd have to see positive proof, not just them alleging all this. As far as assaults, many people are assaulted ever day in every city for many reason, and very recently a woman in Texas claimed someone carved kkk into her chest when it turned out she herself had done it. Have any of these cases you claim gone to trial yet?

[Texasforever]

Well it seems that you have finally found religion......Muslim

[Storm Orphan]

"The FBI said this week it has initiated 40 hate crime investigations into alleged murders, assaults and arsons directed at Americans who are Muslim, South Asian and Arab ..."

Ask the FBI

[FITZ]

I believe there might be some harassment, maybe some vandalism and that's wrong but I don't trust many of these people not to make it up so Osama bin Laden will be off the hook for what he did while we focus on our political correctness. Too many were very quick to start telling us it was all our fault and we deserved it and that there should be absolutely no retaliation. They know us fairly well, they know how to turn our freedoms and our political correctness to their own advantage in the war against us.

[Travis McGee]

LOL. CAIR is a master group at the art of spoonfeeding sugar water to the American audience, then screaming bloody jihad jihad to their moslem audience.

I am surprised you are taken in so easily. CAIR has a long and well known history of supporting terrorist groups.

[Storm Orphan]

The religion is called Islam. A person of Islamic faith is a Muslim.

And I am still an atheist who can't stand religious bigotry seeking to hide behind the
smoke of human tragedy.

[Califreeper]

Re: "People are looking at them funny now" -- Yeah, and they'd better get used to it. As Marcia Clark (remember her from the O.J. trial?) said on the radio the other day --all Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists thus far have been Muslims! Just wait until I give them MY "evil eye."

[Texasforever]

I want to apologize to you before I refresh the page, I can find nothing from you on this forum that has used this tragedy for political purposes. I shot from the hip and should not have let past disagreements cloud my responses.

[Calpublican]

I've watched C-Span quite a bit and seen Muslim panels and various speakers. Haven't seen any outrage--except at violations of their civil rights which they loudly proclaim as "unamerican." (With the exception of the Zogby brothers.) I see their attitudes as unamerican. Don't these people realize their lives are threatened too.

[Storm Orphan]

Apology accepted. I will ask the moderator to pull both of our untoward remarks(67 and 68)
and explain neither of us meant it.

[FrogMom]

They also need to prominently fly the American flag in front of their mosque. To hell with separation of church and state.

[Texasforever]

That was quite a post. However, it means absolutly nothing for various Muslim leaders or the rank and file for that matter, to "condemn" an act after it takes place. The purpose of this post is valid and there is NOTHING unreasonable about it. Like it or not, the Muslim terrorist organizations cannot survive without the aid and comfort of others. It is past time for the "others" to choose and not just wring their hands and spew platitudes such as you have done.

[FITZ]

Our FBI has foiled literally hundreds of plans to work some violence in America. We muslims have been fighting with immigrants and visitors for decades to leave their anti-colonial battles and internecine fights at home

Well you muslims and our FBI certainly failed big time before last Tuesday. No one was paying attention when a large group of muslims decided to kill President Bush, our Congress, destroy the Pentagon, ruin our economy, disable transportation hubs. Pretty big plans to have been missed by so many wouldn't you think?

[FITZ]

They're outnumbered by two groups: other muslims on the one hand, and Americans who are sick, shortsighted, and angry.

The Americans you claim are sick (because they just watched 6000 of their fellow Americans die just for going to work) are at least sick in their own country. Unlike the Muslims who have their own country, hate this one but come here anyhow. I went to college and I managed to see many demonstrations where the Muslims burned the US flag. I could never figure that one out, if I didn't like a government, I certainly would not be living in that country, I'd stay home.

[Mark17]

It is past time for the "others" to choose and not just wring their hands and spew platitudes such as you have done.

Roger that.