Posted on 09/18/2001 3:08:03 AM PDT by American in Israel
I posted this on another thread a few days ago and got mail requesting I post it on its own thread. So here goes;
Guys, you had better study up a little on the culture before you go in shooting. Not an insult, it is coming from the "know your enemies" book of tactics.
For instance, you should have known when the Taliban said Oslama "is our guest" that there is no way they will hand him over. In the desert nomad society that Islam came from, you protect your guests with your life even if you don't like them. Remember the story of the visitors that came to visit Lot in Sodom and Gomorra? Lot offered his daughters to the crowd demanding to sodomize "his guests". You fight to the death to protect someone "under your tent". Our hasty diplomacy trapped the Taliban by their own culture. I am not saying they would hand Bin Laudin over anyway, I am just saying the way we asked they could not.
Another thing you have to understand about Afghanistan is they are already bombed into the stone age. There are not too many buildings left standing now. They have been in a drought for 4 years, and the average TRUE Afghani is starving to death. The Taliban are nothing but your local Terrorist Islamic mafia family that has wrested control of Afghanistan from the true rulers. The Average Afghani most likely do not even know diddly squat about America. They did not dance in the streets when Americans died, they do not have TV's and the only radio most of them hears is tied to a post in the village square.
If you bomb Afghanistan into dust, will it stop wackos with a handful of high-tech knives? A knife IS a stone age tool! Pay attention to the Israeli's who have lived amongst these enemies for years. You do not stop terrorism by bombing villages, you just create more terrorists. You stop terrorism by attack the source of the terrorism. In Afghanistan's case it is the Taliban. There is already a civil war going on as the Afghani's try to free themselves from the Moslem invaders. If we were patient we could do a fly over taking out 50% of their military might (that is about 100% of what you can hope for with a no-ground assault). Then drop a few supplies like food on the freedom fighters, stand back and watch the problem solve itself. Just like Japan and Germany it is not the people in the streets that are the problem, it is the egomaniac's that have wrested control.
However this is going to ignite a far bigger problem, because the problem is not Afghanistan, it is Radical Islam. The reason Afghanistan was chosen to launch the attack from is precisely because there is not much to bomb there. Do not forget that the strings from Oslama are leading back to Syria, Libya, Egypt and most of all Saudi Arabia. You might ask why would Saudi do this, "we saved their asses from Saddam"? If you can not answer that question, you are fighting the shadows and do not understand the war you are in! Fail to know your enemy and you will be setup.
Think, come on what is the answer? All the money for this operation came from Saudi. The pilots came from all over but "follow the money."
The answer is this question, where is the block of rock that all Moslems worship? What nation of all nations controls Mecca, the holy city of Islam? That block of rock is the "Holy of Holies of Islam". All Moslems are required to travel to Mecca and walk around that block. Not just Radical Islamics, but ALL Moslems. It is one of their five commandments. The root of their religion.
You guessed it, our war is with Islam. Saudi Arabia is THE core of Islam, Radical or Non-Radical version. Islam teaches a very mild, religious purity type of religion until they get big enough in the host country, then out comes the fire and blood conversion speeches. A civil war is started, and one more empire bites the dust. It may take generations to get a big enough foothold, but desert people are very patient. Is not much to do in the desert but sit in the shade and watch the rocks grow.
When this attack goes down, every Islamic nation in the world is REQUIRED to declare war on America by the Koran. They are however NOT required to do so publicly. They are told by the clerics when the truth does not bring about the result you desire, it is better to lie to an infidel. Sure we made a coalition in the middle east in the Gulf War. They even thanked us, and even Kuwaiti declared war on us, BECAUSE AN INFIDEL RAISED HIS HAND TO SMITE A MOSLEM. Back stabbing your temporary allies is a way of life in the desert, if it had not been for the foundational rule that you protect your guests under your tent with your life, there would be no civilization in the deserts of Arabia. It is the foundation of their society.
You think the Arabs do not know Americans will Rally-Ho to a war? Think again, we are VERY predictable. We do so every time in history. Now we have ourselves landing troops in the only ISLAMIC nation that has nukes to invade its ISLAMIC neighbors. Do not forget that Pakistan is one of ONLY THREE nations to recognize the Taliban Authority as the valid rulers of Afghanistan. They are the Talibans BEST BUDDIES. Just think, Pakistan with nukes, and the entire forward arm of the American Army landing in one spot there. One nuclear car bomb and America is defenseless. Think also that China is the only world class nation to align with the Taliban after the Trade Center Bombing. Russia spent 10 years there setting up a puppet government.
I say go get them, but when you see the three greatest historical enemies of America in a huddle, better get your eyes open before you go stumbling in. I personally think this is a trap. If played right, this can set America up for invasion like nothing else ever has.
Show Restraint all right, go into war right before God, with your eyes open and ready for anything. Hunt your enemies down and destroy every one to the last man. But don't get all in a Rage and run off half-cocked trusting in your fancy toys, or you will be predictable and have high losses.
This is going to be a very difficult war, High Tech vs Stone Age. In case you have not noticed this is the arena that High Tech is the least suited and has the least advantage. In this scenario I will trade in a cruise missile with a nuke for a single marine. The marine will get the job done far better. BUT he has little advantage due to high-tech toys.
This strike against the WTC is a setup. We HAVE to respond, but lets think out the opening move well. Keep in mind the the suddenly friendly Russians at the front door are currently probing our air defenses at the back door. These same Russians have signed a mutual treaty against "American Aggression" within the last two years with China.
China has obtained Aircraft carriers. That is a thing they have no use for in invading Taiwan, China is an unsinkable Aircraft Carrier. Aircraft Carriers are for FORWARD force projection. Also interesting China has secured the panama canal and placed bases on the tip of the cape horn. Plug the canal, nuke the shores of America and send all those Costco ships over to the states under Aircraft Carriers air cover, and you got invasion. With the Pac/Lant sea lanes blocked, we have not got enough time to respond.
Thanks to Clintoon, the situation in the States is so bad right now that, if you join the National Guard, you get an overseas billet. We have our army spread out around the world fighting fires, Who might I ask are going to stop an Invasion if our Main Army is cutoff over seas? What better spot on earth to cut off our Army than little land-locked Afghanistan? Do not forget that the Russians are the worlds best Chess Players.
Read Isaiah 14-19. If the scenario I have shown above happens, and America responds with a full nuclear strike on the offending nations, only to be backstabbed in return by China/Russia pact, this prophecy will be fulfilled in its entirety. Many people suspect that Isaiah 18 is the Invasion of America. When is a branch pruned from the vine? When it shows no fruit. When is the shofar blown? In the feast of Trumpets. That time is now, in the next couple of weeks. (Let the reader understand)
Open your eyes boys, this is a setup. Don't step in the trap. I am not saying don't step, just don't step in the trap. Get your hearts right before God, so your eyes will be fully open."
China has apparently purchased an incomplete Aircraft carrier from the Ukraine. It has no engines and is being towed around in circles in the Black Sea north of Turkey. That'll certainly provide air cover for their invasion of the United States.
This article was dated July 27, 2001. If it were April 1, 2001, I would have chalked it up to an April Fools joke.
Partially? What part was incorrect? (Ps....Turkey is saying that it to dangerous to tow through the strait.)
Trust but verify
I am sick of being told that this is not all of Islam...when it sure is!
Thought I would give a scripture for the folks that will choose not to believe that
Isaiah - 59:1Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
59:2But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid [his] face from you, that he will not hear.
59:3For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
59:4None calleth for justice, nor [any] pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
We know not what we do.
May God have mercy on us.
LOL. Okay.
Hunt down and kill every member of every Arab terrorist group, no matter what nation they are from, or what nation they are residing in.
Make it so that goatherding is a much, much safer profession than terrorism.
Perhaps we could use the psy-ops bit about pigs on them too. All caught terrorists will be killed with bullets coated in bacon grease or something....
Sorry, but that's nonsense.
If we were gone, China and the Muslims would devour Russia. And Russia knows it.
The Cox report said that COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment. We have posted the links to that many times. Excerpt from: Panama Canal & Hutchison Whampoa limited:
"Although presented as a commercial entity," according to the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, "COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment." The Clinton administration has determined that additional information concerning COSCO that appears in the Select Committee's classified Final Report cannot be made public without affecting national security." ...PRC Acquisition of U.S. Technology -- PRC Acquisition of U.S. Technology -- PRC Purchase of Interests in U.S. Companies ...The Cox Report
Interview with Chinese Dissident Harry Wu by J.R. Nyquist
Harry Wu on the real China
The Chinese art of war: J.R. Nyquist
CHINA'S STRATEGIC DECEPTION
COSCO CHOOSES CPR SERVICE INTO U.S. HEARTLAND
China Prepares U.S. War Scenarios
Canada Targeted by China Agents (target America?)
Click here for the BIG PICTURE
Chinese Genocide Against Mongols (Part One)
Chinese Genocide Against Mongols (Part Two)
Chinese Genocide Against Mongols (Part Three)
Earlier, I posted the following here - #108:
>>>You're putting too much on the plate at one time. Readers can't possibly consume it all at one sitting.
I suggest a speed reading course in the Bible, in prophecy and in FR's archives. Judgment is nigh.
>>>Driving across I-40 through New Mexico and Arizona, the motorist encounters freight train after freight train loaded with COSCO containers full of Chinese manufactured goods. They are loaded with our electronic products, clothing, shoes, stuffed animals (all are made in China), toys.....you name it!
Okay. I'll name it. COSCO was caught with a container of assault weapons under Clinton's reign but the matter was lightly disposed of and attributed to someone wanting to arm blacks in Los Angeles. Too few mentioned that those could have been intended to arm the military age Chinese young men being smuggled into the country. Too few mentioned that there could be not just a container full of assault rifles, but a container shiploads full of assault weapons being smuggled in as well.
>>>Good points, but two different topics unless you are suggesting that the Chinese communists are God's way of punishing our sinful nation.
I am suggesting that. The Bible is full of God's word. None of it He calls "suggestions"...read here and you decide:
De 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
Read also Jeremiah 50 and 51, Isaiah 13, 47, and if you have a New Testament, Rev. 17 & 18. That will be a start.
See bookmarks of 2sheep for more.
China has gained, through economic agreements and overt military occupation, partial control of vital sea lanes. The Chinese-controlled Hutchison-Whampoa Ltd. controls both ends of the Panama Canal and has a fifty-year agreement to operate it. Last April, this company was awarded a 30-year concession to manage Egypts Port Said, the gateway to the Suez Canal through which U.S. Navy as well as European and American commercial ships pass on their way to the Persian Gulf.
Not only can they block us from Alantic/Pacific transit, they are in position to bottle us up in the ME. I was not aware they had gotten control of the Suez too.
Many are more proficient than the police.
To beat us on our turf, they'd need at LEAST 50 million, if not 100 million. With no support on their side from the populace, but plenty of support for our side.
And then there's the small problem of 'smuggling' 50,000,000 Chinese into the US.
Freighters? Do you know how slow they move? How easily the Air force could dispose of them? We could sink every freighter on the Pacific in a week if we were so inclined.
And if you're not using ships, it's an awfully long swim...
The only halfway remotely fantasy of a US invasion would have to be conducted from Mexico by land. Or perhaps through Alaska. But we'd see them preparing.
It ain't gonna happen.
We might get nuked, but there's no chance at all of any nation landing on us. We'd get 900 of 1000 ships before they could even see the coast.
The rest would be mop up for the militia, even if every active duty soldier was overseas.
Marines would take it back in a heartbeat, if the Chinese tried to stop passage of our vessels in wartime.
LOL. that's been bothering me, too.
The times seem to demand it. It is time for every Amercan to be concerned not only with their own safety but the safety of their friends and neighbors. The number of targets that exist in this nation is far too high for government protection. Do you have a corporate id that may provide access to a site that could be a terror target? Is there a vulnerable portion of the elctric, or telecomm grid near you. Are there places where a significant number of people gather near you? Is there a significant agricultural operation near you? Do you live in a potential staging area for an operation against any of the above?
I have not listed all the targets or even a significant portion and I am careful of what I state as potential targets limiting only to what others have discussed in national media.
Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown
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