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I'm retired USAF and my wife is a USAF vet (7 years). God bless those that still serve. Our prayers are and will continue to be with you. (BTW, AF recruiters are turning away 41 year old retirees.)

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Thanks!!! your awesome!! :o)

We on the homefront must support our troops. We've got to cover their backs to protect them from the traitors among us.

We have things in common!!! Hubby retired after 26 years. Army Medivac pilot in Nam, then after 7 years active duty Army, went on to be full time Army National Guard, he retired as the Aviation Battalion Commander. Wonderful troops, we had to send some of them to the Gulf during Desert Storm. We were out in numbers at the Airport to send them off :o). I served 4 years in the AF. Medical Unit Conus during Nam, worked on POW's as they returned. We KNOW what our troops are about to go into, all of us Vets KNOW how important support is. Not only to them, but the anxious loved ones who are left at home.

My husband said he would join up again in a minute if he could. I know he would, as would I if needed. I'm sure you both feel the same way. If the opportunity arises, I imagine they would take my husband. I doubt they would me because of illness. But I will help in any way I can!

Thanks, **Salute** !!!! and God Bless our Troops and America!!!

We've got to cover their backs to protect them from the traitors among us.

AGREED!!! I don't think anyone would DARE to speak out against them. Just a "gut" feeling!! But we will let the enemies that remain in our Country know that our troops have our FULL support!!! The World and those who oppose us, will know we are 100 percent behind the Nations Sons and Daughters!!

I put together a rally in Alaska for the troops of Desert Storm. It was amazing how everything I needed was provided by merchants for FREE!! To even putting up a stage!!! Speaker systems, Radio Stations announcing it, and being there, flags.. singers,..all free!!!

On reflection, it will be good to do those kinds of things again, but also important to have barbecues for the families. To let the little kids whose Moms and Dads are gone to defend our Country know their parents are OUR HERO's!!!

Thanks for your support :o) God Bless!!!

To any who respond to me, there is a glitch to my "respond" button for some reason. Could you make sure it has Vets_Husband_&_Wife in there? Thanks, I'll be back later.

Consider it done. My husband is in the Army reserves(inactive, at the moment, but it looks as though that may change). Thank you for posting this and may God bless you. You are in our prayers.

Thanks as always for the flag.

Cops & Firefighters too!

This is a life and death struggle for us all. We must win!

MEGA BUMP. Shoot the murderers over there, Hang the traitors over here. Also: A song to unite us: The American Battle Hymn. An anthem from the soldier's perspective.

I feel both extremely sad and immensely proud. This is such an emotional time.

GOD, please, please take care of our troops!

"I don't think anyone would DARE to speak out against them. Just a "gut" feeling!! But we will let the enemies that remain in our Country know that our troops have our FULL support!!!"

The good thing is that 86% of Americans support this President. I'm just wondering how on earth there could be 14% who don't!!!!

Me - Ex AF for four
Son-in-law 1 - Firefighter, Army Reserve now
Son-in-law 2 - Navy Reserve now

I'd like to drop some bombs myself, but there is another side to look at -

AMR and the FAA delivered this disaster; United did their share.

The hijackers succeeded because they had an invitation from the FAA. Now the airlines are wanting billions as a reward - as well as interest free loans. They are also asking Congress to pass an ex-post-facto law relieving them of the responsibility!RIGHT!

They will probably get what they want - believe it or not! Write / E-mail your congressman.

The horrific terrorist attack on America was a repeat event with a long history - make no mistake about it.

The 9-11 attack on America has its roots in the Afghan war. Osama Bin Laden received his training, experience and his initial assets there. In the aftermath of the Afghan war, many Muslims, probably thousands, were assisted in gaining residence / citizenship for their support of the CIA efforts in Afghanistan. Beyond the Afghan refugees, an unknown number of Kurds were also flown into the U.S., as refugees from the Gulf War.

Prejudice being what it is, few questioned the role of the CIA in the Afghan war. 'Intelligence' is one thing, war is another. Yet, in the shadowed tradition of the secret war in Laos & Cambodia, the U.S. intelligence agency was essentially conducting a war against the Russians.

Among other issues of that effort, comes the non-accountability of such assets as the supply of Stinger missiles from the Afghan conflict.

The first World Trade Center bombing was in 1993. The Muslim connection is well known. In the background of that effort was another Bin Laden terrorist effort, known as "Project Bojinka," targeting U.S. Airliners in the Pacific. By accident, it was discovered in the Philippines and thwarted. Note that there was no warning to Americans.

One of the key players in Project Bojinka was an individual known as Ramsi Yousef. He was also one of those convicted in the first WTC bombing. Yousef, among other things, told the FBI that his 'group' was responsible for the downing of TWA-800. That claim has more than sufficient credibility to be taken very seriously.

While 'official' sources denied any criminal activity in TWA-800, Yousef's claim has radically more merit and probability than the nonsensical 'short-circuit' claim of the NTSB. The discovery of the PETN traces indicate a U.S. military 2.75 inch solid rocket motor. The alleged bomb-dog test doesn't hold water. The number of witnesses who claimed to have seen a missile numbered in the hundreds. There was too much evidence that TWA-800 was taken down by at least one missile. Other than nonsensical theory, there was no evidence of the center-wing fuel tank explosion as the initial event. The 'official' proving theories and tests don't hold up under elementary scrutiny.

In brief, there is no shortage of protests documenting government cover-up in the TWA-800 disaster.

In the case of the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh's attorney turned up frightening evidence of a middle-eastern connection. His requests for further evidence were denied. The introduction of the middle-eastern connection in court was stifled. The forewarning by the BATF informant, Carol Howe was suppressed.

Now, with the facilitation of all agencies looking the other way, America faces the recent tragedy and a terrible aftermath, which will forever change the freedoms of America. That didn't have to happen.

A relatively well-known GAO report to Congress slams the FAA for the lax security standards. Part of the report was kept secret, as it damnably quantified the risk to Americans - still no change. A recent report warned that such an event was imminent. Why was there no significant warning? Why was there no stepped up security?

The Boston airport, in particular, has a prominent history of lax security standards; what happened?

Three weeks before the 9-11 attack, the overseas papers quoted Bin Laden as saying that a major strike against the USA was soon to come. That's a lot of warning, by any standard. Bin Laden almost always telegraphs a warning - he's not to be ignored. Sixty-minutes did a report on the Afghan sentiments against the U.S. which telegraphed a warning sixty days before the attack. Regardless of who actually did the attack, there were credible warnings of an attack.

As time goes on, more-and-more reports are surfacing which warned of this attack. However horrrible the thought is, it must be asked, "Why were they ignored in the face of such historically clear, and even imminent threat???"

Bear in mind that the FAA gave Bin Laden an engraved invitation with their selective ignorance of airport security, defying Congress with the GAO citing the FAA blatant failures. That issue has no shortage of government documentation.

In the months ahead we may see the major airlines citing phony bankruptcy likelihood. Beneath that veneer, note that they won't talk about the associated holding company which is sucking out all the real profit, while making it appear that the airline is anything but at programmed risk. If there's an associated holding company, look for a scam.

Terrorist, Ramsi Yousef, claimed his group was responsible for TWA-800. Yet the FBI's Kallstrom said there was no evidence. So, why did the FBI go fishing for Stinger remnants after the recovery effort?

Still, there was no appreciable increase to aircraft security. The FAA has a nifty set of "stall tactics;" there was no appreciable increase anywhere. Rhetoric will be heard to the effect of, "...changes were proposed." As usual, results are as evasive as ever.

Mary Schiavo cited the legislation already proposed to exempt American & United from accounting for the deaths on the ground. It may have been introduced under the direct lobbying of the airlines, or the 'special' lobby which manipulates the FAA to spare the airlines such costs as the lax airport security which brought us to this thread.

Each airline ticket contains a sizable tax which is supposed to prevent such disasters. Instead, it's either allowed to accumulate (no doubt in favored banks) or is pillaged and-or spent on indirect benefits to the airlines. None of it gets spent for safety - strange; or is it? The regulations / laws were there, millions were made for the FAA permitting the airlines to ignore those; the airlines don't deserve a break.

Look for Norm Minetta to cover for the FAA.

Jane Garvey (FAA Administrator) knew full well; now, does she deserve to answer to a criminal court?

One should note the New York Times catch of the FBI involvement in the first WTC bombing. There was warning!

The FAA allowed a smuggler's paradise to be built in the new Guam airport terminal under Clinton. With "Project Bojinka" in the immediate background; and the first Muslim attack on the World Trade Center - there was no excuse.

Among others, former FAA security agent, Steve Elson, has had a crusade against all of Washington D.C. on the lack of airport security. There was warning galore - as usual.

Again, Boston, in particular, has a terrible record for airport security.

It's early, but it appears that the hijackers slipped knives past security - no big trick by the FAA 'special' standards. The hijackings were done with teams of 4 or 5 per aircraft.

Looking to what is known about the effort, the terrorists picked two airlines, "United" (States) and "American." No doubt the names were highly symbolic. The aircraft were just beginining their day's flying, ensuring that they would depart on time. The day (Tuesday) reasonably assured a low passenger count - least risk for passenger interference. The originating airports and their destination ensured the high fuel load.

The news footage of the WTC / Pentagon strikes strongly suggest that the hijackers were skilled pilots, with a bias toward the 757 / 767. Both aircraft had nearly identical cockpits and similar flying characteristics. The WTC / Pentagon flying was that of a pilot who is current at the controls of a simulator, with practice at hitting the specific targets.

The flying exhibited exact planning, practice and recent proficiency. At the airspeed of the strike, the eye-hand coordination demands would be too high for casual flying skill - with, or without, an autopilot engaged. At 290 knots, the individual towers and the front door of the Pentagon are not that big a target.

It's highly probable - and already, reasonably established - that proficiency was acquired / maintained in a Stateside flight simulator facility, offering airliner models with high-level graphics capability, with the WTC & the Pentagon in the visual data-base. It's unlikely that a program such as "Microsoft Flight Simulator" could account for the flying skills exhibited.

Relative to the FAA disregard for safety, evidenced by the GAO report on lax airport security, as well as other legitimate complaints - somebody needs to get the FAA honest. We're very likely to see this again.

The tragedy of Swiss Air 111 illuminated the FAA record for methodically overlooking the aircraft wiring issue. Backing the FAA was a Clinton's Presidential Executive Order 12866 - "If it costs the airline money - don't enforce it." Behind that was a change in U.S. Law, 'conveniently' relieving the FAA of the responsibility for aviation safety. The setup was nothing less than methodical.

The FAA has also permitted a flimsy cockpit door design on aircraft which couldn't keep anybody out. The airline industry has had cockpit break-ins before by sky-ragers; this isn't anything new.

Historically, the threat to a flight attendant or a passenger's life was sufficient to open the cockpit door - that may have now changed forever. Although a bit drastic, alternate methods are available for dealing with a threatened flight attendant or passengers life.

Returning to the terrorist issue, one should give notice, that in the history of bombings against the USA, there have been warnings galore in the newspapers, etc, but the security agencies always get surprised. Americans should notice that there have been no changes - until AFTER this disaster.

While the 9-11 terrorist operation was reasonably involved, the greatest probable sophistication was in keeping the pilot's skills up to the needed proficiency, and certainly the timing.

Complexity kills operations such as this, thus it is more probable that the terrorists kept it as simple as possible, with a fair amount of money behind them. The FAA track record on airport security is a joke. The security penetration was probably quite easy. As yet, there is no significant indication of airport 'inside workers.'

Many people are ignorant as to the thousands of Muslims that the CIA brought into the U.S. as a reward for supporting operations overseas.

The Muslim devotion to Islam far exceeds any other loyalty. While Americans are pandered the idealism of the equality issue, tribalism will always rule the planet. Reverse prejudice illuminates that truth in the USA.

With some good propaganda, the terrorists prostitute Islam to produce the tribalism we saw on the eleventh of September, probably taking a lesson from the Crusades.

In a sentence, radical changes are long overdue. It's time for America to demand their fundamental right to life, in addition to the freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution. Persecuting the terrorist organizations only treats the symptoms.

Despite the undeniable horror of the 9-11 attacks, it knowingly began with our own government agencies and our own Congress. The issue isn't about apportioning blame, it's in the implementation of the known and needed repair - at home. For starters, Congress needs to reverse the law, making the FAA responsible for safety; then ensuring that the FAA complies with that law.

Permitting airlines or airports to maintain their own security is paramount to a prison system based on the "honor" system. That statement is not an exaggeration.

The "60-Minutes" segment, aired on 9-16-01, detailed the methodical gaps in security as well. The actions were criminal, yet the FAA did nothing worth mentioning. Previous criminal charges against the security contractors didn't affect anything appreciable in the FAA system.

Before the first rescue centers were set up, the airlines were lobbying for multi-billion dollar grants and interest-free loans. Legislation was requested to exempt the responsible airlines from civil litigation. These were the companies who knowingly delivered the avenue and means for the murders - knowingly facilitated by the FAA.

The threat was well-known; this horror could have been prevented. With the Congressional changes to Federal Law, and the FAA history of maximizing corporate profits, it was all but guaranteed, in some fashion. History warned us, as did the media; this didn't need to happen.

Keep movin' thread. Bump.

I have two sons in the military, One in the <old Guard in Washington, The other in the desert on (training)

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This came to me today after hearing the Presidents remark.

Bin Laudin - Wanted Dead or Alive
(With Apologies to Bon Jovi)

It’s all the same, only the president's name has changed,
Every day I feel my life slipping away,
America's the place, where the faces I saw cold,
I ride all night, Just to find a safe hole.
I’m an coward, on a stinking camel I ride,
I’m wanted, dead or alive,
Wanted, dead or alive.
Sometimes I sleep, sometimes it’s not for days,
And people I meet always run the other way.
Sometimes you tell the day, by how bad you stink.

And sometimes when you’re alone, you can't help but do a sheep.
I’m a coward, on a stinking camel I ride,
I’m wanted, dead or alive,
Wanted, dead or alive.
I’m Bin Laudin, on a stinking camel I ride,
I’m wanted, dead or alive,
Wanted, dead or alive.
I crap in the street, with my finger I wipe my crack,
I hide in the shadows, to avoid a bullet in my back.
I been everywhere, and no one will take me in,
I’ve angered every nation, and I’m wanted by them all.

I’m a coward, on a stinking camel I ride,
I’m wanted, dead or alive,
I’m Bin Laudin, I got the Americans on my ass,
I’m wanted, dead or alive,
Wanted, dead or alive.

GREAT BIG OL' GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS BUMP!!