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Question for Church History Buffs (Vanity)
Vanity | 09/17/01 | self

Posted on 09/17/2001 11:06:55 AM PDT by JenB

To all you religion/church history buffs out there: I need your help! I'm writing a paper for a *very* liberal college professor on the Reformation, and I need lots of very good, very reliable sources, preferably offline.

In particular I'd like information or book suggestions regarding how the Crusades influenced the Reformation, and what if any effect the Black Death had on same. Also, I remember reading some time ago about early (600 AD?) conflict between the British Celtic church and the Roman church; any knowledge you guys have on that would be great.


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PS. This is my first vanity and I really hope I got it right. Sorry if anyone thinks this is out of place but I really need the info!
1 posted on 09/17/2001 11:06:55 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Try searching Amazon by topic. I'm sure there's a lot on the Reformation. Unfortunately, I have no specific recommendations.
2 posted on 09/17/2001 11:15:38 AM PDT by Darth Reagan
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To: JenB
"A History of the Christian Church," by Williston Walker. I have third edition, but I believe a new one has come out recently. Excellent reference.

And this is, too, very appropriate at this time in history. Good for you -- go to it, learn what you need to, and hang the liberal professor. You're there to learn, not to please liberals. (I confess I used to write things I knew would please them, but age and wisdom has made me realize the folly of that.)

3 posted on 09/17/2001 11:33:23 AM PDT by germanshepherd
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To: JenB
Your paper. Do your own research. We are not here to do your homework for you. Comprendo'
4 posted on 09/17/2001 11:44:22 AM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
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To: JenB
Calvin's writings on Islam are on-line. A google keyword search should turn them up.
5 posted on 09/17/2001 11:58:11 AM PDT by wjeanw
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To: JenB
Your might go to EWTN.com. It's a Catholic web site with an extensive library. Try also The Catholic Encyclopedia. Also books by Marty Martin who is a very fine Protestant historian.
6 posted on 09/17/2001 11:59:05 AM PDT by Theresa
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To: JenB
"conflict between the British Celtic Church and the Roman church"

Reputable scholars agree there never was an entity known as the British Celtic Church. The conflicts you speak of were conflicts within the Roman church, not between the Roman church and a separate British church. The two points of conflict pertained to monastic tonsure (differences in how the monks cut their hair) and the dating of Easter.
7 posted on 09/17/2001 12:01:59 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: HEFFERNAN2
The college I went to, we were encouraged to network with others more knowledgeable than ourselves about different topics. This was part of the learning process, there was nothing unethical about it. She obviously is looking for good source recommendations from outside the usual campus left-o sources. There is nothing out of line about her request for assistance.
8 posted on 09/17/2001 12:07:55 PM PDT by motexva
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To: JenB
The Great Reckoning by James Dale Davidson contains a chapter explaining how the new system of capitalism played a critical role in the Reformation. Thanks to the Black Death, feudalism fell apart, and out of the ashes came capitalism.

The Crusades opened up Europe to both eastern and classical influences and played a major role in the Renaissance.

9 posted on 09/17/2001 12:08:16 PM PDT by Publius
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These links a great, they contain brief discription of the source, book, video, cassette, etc..... but don't be fooled the brief description can't describe the amount of information with references and footnotes.... you will not be disappointed..

Mash here, and navigate to great sources using lefthand menu...

try this one for starters......
A Woman Rides the Beast - Dave Hunt

10 posted on 09/17/2001 12:10:57 PM PDT by johnk (jckinney_yahoo@yahoo.com)
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To: JenB
There was an excellent article on this topic in the now-defunct "Gnosis Magazine." The magazine still has a web site (keywords "Gnosis Magazine") from which - I believe - back issues can still be ordered. The issue in question is #45, "Esoteric Christianity." The article was titled, "Looking for Celtic Christianity."
11 posted on 09/17/2001 12:11:23 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: HEFFERNAN2
We are not here to do your homework for you.

Lighten up. The request was for sources. With the collective wisdom on FR, I'd consider that a research request...

12 posted on 09/17/2001 12:13:19 PM PDT by Ward Smythe
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To: JenB
I forgot to mention that the conflicts mentioned earlier were resolved at the Synod of Whitby, sometime around 600-650 AD. This is all discussed in the aforementioned "Gnosis" article.
13 posted on 09/17/2001 12:15:26 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: JenB
Jen, have a look here. Seems appropriate.
14 posted on 09/17/2001 12:16:58 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: JenB
History of Christian Thought and History of Christianity, several volumes each, written by Justo Gonzalez. Also, Renaissance and Reformation written by William Estep and published by Eerdman's. All three well written and documented. May be too conservative for your professor, though.
15 posted on 09/17/2001 12:19:46 PM PDT by bualum
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To: JenB
History of Christian Thought and History of Christianity, several volumes each, written by Justo Gonzalez.

Bump for this series. Good stuff here.

16 posted on 09/17/2001 12:24:36 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: JenB
Ditto on Post 3, I have a relatively substantial library, but still go to W. Walker's text for quick, concise, yet thorough references. Also, Dowley's Introduction to the History of Christianity contains useful 'tidbits', it is certainly not exhaustive re: the Reformation or Islam & its relationship with Christendom. You might look at www.chalecon.edu, www.avision1.com, www.capo.org, www.crta.org, www.credenda.org as other sources for texts on and off line. (Also, Schaff is a good source).
18 posted on 09/17/2001 12:25:21 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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Thanks for the suggestions! I've already managed to reserve two of the titles at our school library and find a few other resources through various links. This makes my life so much less complicated.

PS there is no plagiarism or 'laziness' involved here. We are permitted to ask people for information/sources, which is a good thing because the school library is a real mess.

19 posted on 09/17/2001 12:26:09 PM PDT by JenB
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To: HEFFERNAN2
Your paper. Do your own research. We are not here to do your homework for you. Comprendo'

Take a deep breath, relax.... turn off those explosion shots on boob tube...

we are all friends here, for the most part....

and by the way..... nosotros comprendo....

20 posted on 09/17/2001 12:27:40 PM PDT by johnk
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