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Freeh: Real threat far right,Christian,Patriot,Militia..not from foreign sources

Posted on 09/16/2001 8:21:38 AM PDT by robnoel

Is it not ironic that the head of the FBI and the Clinton admin spent 8 years going after Americans...as Gary Aldrich pointed out yesterday

We were even given a new set of "enemies" to consider. Call it a distraction. We were told that the real threat was not from some Islamic fundamentalists who vowed to commit terrorist acts to bring us to our knees. No, Bill Clinton and Janet Reno and their friends on Capitol Hill and in the media spoke as one voice about the home-grown threat posed by church-going Americans, protesting against partial birth abortion.

And then they demonized well-organized militia groups with - gasp - actual guns! who were complaining about Clinton's liberal agenda. They were considered suspicious because they expressed absolute disgust for our Commander in Chief.

I submit these same bearded, flannel-shirted "suspicious characters" are now running the backhoes and girder cutters in New York City, working around the clock until they drop from exhaustion, attempting to do what real Americans have always done.

Meanwhile, the "girly-men" Liberals and their strident molls scratch their heads and wonder how and why Tuesday happened. After all, weren't they nice to these terrorists? Didn't they display the correct amount of tolerance for another peoples' religious beliefs? Didn't Hillary Clinton actually embrace and kiss Arafat's wife?

From a Salon piece..The hyping of domestic terrorism

Just over a year ago, on Feb. 4, 1999, Freeh testified on the subject of terrorism before the Senate Appropriations Committee's Subcommittee on the departments of Commerce, Justice and State. Freeh's testimony was overlooked in every news account this week, but his detailed evaluation makes the Bremer Commission's hold on reality appear tenuous. "The frequency of terrorist incidents in the United States has decreased in number," Freeh emphasized. Since the World Trade Center bombing of 1993, Freeh pointed out, "no single act of foreign-directed terrorism has occurred on American soil."

Support for violent revolutionaries emanating from Cuba and North Korea, he noted, "appear to have declined" with those nations' economic free falls. Even the American cells of violent Middle East political movements as Hamas and Hezbollah, Freeh declared, are devoted exclusively to "fundraising and low-level intelligence gathering."

Just how much terrorism is not much? Freeh testified that in fiscal 1998, the FBI prevented 10 planned "terrorist acts." Not one emanated from abroad. Nine of the 10 "terrorist acts" were planned by a single, small cluster of Illinois white supremacists hoping to assassinate Holocaust scholar Simon Wiesenthal and Morris Dees, the anti-Klan crusader who runs the Southern Poverty Law Center. The other forestalled attack involved a lone individual, a militia type, from Washington state.

Foreign students did not figure in Freeh's account at all. Indeed, Freeh told Congress that the main threat of terrorist violence comes not from foreign sources but from the overlapping constituencies of the far right: abortion-clinic assassins, Christian Identity militias and the like.

Talk about a blown call :-)


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To: OldFriend
U.S. Marshals protect federal judge's buffer zones outside abortion clinics to keep pro-lifers from handing a pregnant woman a leaflet with another alternative while our airlines are unprotected. You figure.
81 posted on 09/16/2001 7:14:56 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: victim soul
And in the aftermath of this calamity we have some AMERICAN universities and businesses refusing to allow their employees to show the American flag. Lehigh University had to back track after ordering it's bus drivers to immediately stop showing the flag.
82 posted on 09/16/2001 7:55:02 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: rdavis84
"Those Who Hate Americans and America First." You may CALL Starr and Freeh Americans, but many of us call them Traitors."

This is a ridiculous exageration. You may not think either one did a good job. You may believe they made mistakes. Whatever. But traitors? Come on. Get a grip on yourself.

83 posted on 09/16/2001 9:34:08 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: Theresa
Took you a while.

They're Traitors because they had and have Knowledge of traitorous acts by government officials right up to the President, and they did Nothing to stop it. Their Money comes first.

84 posted on 09/16/2001 9:41:57 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: robnoel
In fact, even with domestic political violence continuing to fall, the FBI's counterterrorism budget has grown almost 400 percent since the World Trade Center bombing: from $78.5 million in 1993 to $301.2 million in 1999. The number of FBI agents devoted full-time to counterterrorism has flowered, too, from 550 in 1993 to 1,383 in 1999.

Under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, wiretaps are at an all-time high and the number rises every year. Yet the Bremer Commission proposes removing the few insulating layers of Justice Department review -- essentially letting the FBI set its own, independent wiretap agenda. The Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, a draconian package passed by Congress in 1996, gives the president the broadest authority to prosecute suspected "terrorists" in American history, yet not a single instance of "terrorist fundraising" has surfaced for prosecution. (One of the few worthwhile recommendations in the report -- apparently a sop to commissioner Juliette Kayyem, an Arab-American and Justice Department attorney -- is ending the "secret evidence" trials permitted under that same 1996 law.)

These two paragraphs from the SALON story make the whole thing even WORSE. After all the elephantine growth of "counterintelligence," the fact the FBI had three of the kamikaze camel jockeys in their custody and let them go, and Israel requested extradition on another, STILL 19 camel jockeys armed with plastic knives were able to murder over 5000 Americans, shut down the entire air transport system, and destroyed part of the Pentagon.

They didn't catch Eric Rudolph, either.

85 posted on 09/16/2001 9:49:01 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: rdavis84
You speak for me there, friend!
86 posted on 09/16/2001 9:55:34 PM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: robnoel
These two paragraphs from the SALON story make the whole thing even WORSE. After all the elephantine growth of "counterintelligence," the fact the FBI had three of the kamikaze camel jockeys in their custody and let them go, and Israel requested extradition on another, STILL 19 camel jockeys armed with plastic knives were able to murder over 5000 Americans, shut down the entire air transport system, and destroyed part of the Pentagon.

It just dawned on me. Maybe this is why the ITALIANS are chickening out of the war.

87 posted on 09/16/2001 9:57:56 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: MagnusMat
"both Repbulicans and Dems found him to extremely honest and forthcoming"

I agree, I actually found him to be a surprisingly decent and honest guy for a clinton appointee.

88 posted on 09/16/2001 10:02:29 PM PDT by Nova
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To: Nova
Thanks for the reply.
89 posted on 09/17/2001 4:49:50 AM PDT by MagnusMat
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To: roughrider
I've been mulling this, and I'll post it to a few others, but a nagging question stays unanswered, at least to me.

Cheney was invisible for weeks. I tried to scout him out but couldn't find mention of him. He resurfaced AFTER the event, but situated and separated from 'the president', as would be wise.

Now he's everywhere. The question to me is --- Does this not seem like another indication of Foreknowledge?

It seems to me that at the highest levels there was total appreciation of a threat of imminent attack. There was much attention to the Sucession sequence. Does it to you?

90 posted on 09/17/2001 4:51:11 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: dorben
Please consider my reply to roughrider.
91 posted on 09/17/2001 4:52:43 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
I think that is a stretch , after taking your request under consideration .
92 posted on 09/17/2001 11:21:34 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: rdavis84
An employee of a very lofty quasi-federal entity told me last Friday that he thought Cheney was running everything. There is a possibility that an airliner carrying Bush landed at Johnstown, Pennsylvania airport, and that quasi-federal employee said that was very likely. At between 4:00-4:30PM on the day of the attacks, an airliner appeared in front of the Comfort Inn on a mountain to the east of Johnstown, and about 2 miles from the airport. The liner was descending to land, and leaving a black trail behind it indicative of dumping fuel. It was a few hundred feet off the ground and level as it disappeared behind the ridge separating us from the airport. Police had closed off the airport earlier that afternoon, and the quasi-federal employee reported about helicopter gunships circling the airport. Johnstown is helicopter distance from Washington, DC.

Bush runs domestic policy, as indicated by his appearing before an elementary school class, posing as National School Superintendent on the morning of the attack, as the soccermoms expect that from Presidents since Clinton. Cheney runs foreign policy from the White House basement, and anyone who thinks Cheney isn't in contact with BUSH THE ELDER is politically naive.

Something these boys thought they had a handle on was running away from them. That is the gist I am getting from the other threads posted in the past 24 hours. The FBI was searching for the camel jockeys for three weeks before the attacks, and Cheney was nowhere to be found. They were trying to resolve this on the QT.

Clinton had no more domestic attacks like the OKC bombing after he pulled CIA's teeth, if they ever had any, in infiltrating terrorist groups. After OKC, and Clinton forbidding infiltration of the cells, there were NO MORE ATTACKS IN THE DOMESTIC US, but only attacks on US targets abroad. Clinton responded with useless "showtime" cruise missile attacks on unrelated targets. Bubba made a deal with bin Laden to lay off the interior US until after he was out of office. That is what I think happened. In the intervening years, the camel jockeys planned for what they would do once Clinton was gone, and the deal would be over. That is about the time the flight training began, and after five years the plotters were ready, and Bush had been in office only eight months. Reports began to flow in that something big was in the works shortly after Bubba left office. The boys thought they could control it without having to alert the public. Freeh told Congress he had a handle on the cells, and had informants inside. When the boys realized Freeh's well was dry after a couple of months of pumping, he resigned suddenly. The boys kept scrambling, trying to bag one of the camel jockeys in hopes it would deter the others from acting. TOO LATE.

This is just my opinion, based on the timeline known to this date.

94 posted on 09/17/2001 5:19:37 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: roughrider
Very well described and immensely logical. Thanks for the input.

The two mobs are definitely at "Wahr".

95 posted on 09/17/2001 5:32:15 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: all here
I believe right now, we need to focus on the present and the future. Please forget about past stupidity for the moment. We have a war to fight, people.

Let's focus on some solutions, e.g., deport all illegal aliens IMMEDIATELY. There are millions of illegals here in this country. Can you KNOW what there agenda is by looking at them?

Let's get the citizen militia mobilized, fully armed, and licensed to cross state lines with weapons. Let's get them (YOU AND ME)trained on the basic use of weapons (for those in doubt) and allow them to carry concealed ALL THE TIME!!!

Let's lift the restrictions on spying on terrorists here and abroad.

And those are just a few of the things to get done.

There is MUCH TO DO. Let's focus on getting it done and worry about the idiots who got us into this later (those idiots being the American people, by the way!).

96 posted on 09/18/2001 11:36:55 AM PDT by Gig
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