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US plans to use elite Delta Force commandos on flights
AFP | 9/13

Posted on 09/13/2001 8:52:24 AM PDT by oxi-nato

WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (AFP) - The US authorities plan to draft in elite Delta Force commandos to help protect civilian planes, Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta said Thursday.

"We are asking for expeditious treatment and action by the Department of Defense to give us some Delta Force folks," he told a news conference, announcing a reopening of US airspace from 1500 GMT.

"They are already trained on high-risk situations and it would not take that much more training to put the Delta Forces on the airplane," he added. "We are hoping to augment federal air marshals with Delta Forces."


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To: oxi-nato
I suggest they use disguises so they aren't easily recognizable.
21 posted on 09/13/2001 9:09:59 AM PDT by A+Bert (Outta here)
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To: dirtboy
...although this is probably in violation of Posse Comatus. I guess that law will just wither on the vine under these circumstances.

That sacred concept died at Waco, and our nation took one more giant step toward not existing as it was meant to exist.

23 posted on 09/13/2001 9:10:42 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: oxi-nato
Mineta is showing gross stupidity. If Delta force commandos are to do sky marshal duty, who will then be sent into terrorist camps, armed stewardesses?
24 posted on 09/13/2001 9:12:36 AM PDT by truth_eagle
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To: dirtboy
With armed and trained Sky Marshals there won't be any hijack situations. . . . . . . . in fact allowing concealed carry by passengers would eliminate hijacks too.
25 posted on 09/13/2001 9:14:11 AM PDT by LSJohn
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To: oxi-nato
As America continues to reel from the catastrophic events of 9/11, we need to rethink a few things:

It’s probably time to train and ARM the cockpit crews of US carriers who agree to the program. Pilots and FOs who do not want the responsibility can be exempted. It was, after all, the folks controlling the aircraft who were the targets on Terrible Tuesday.

During the rash of hijackings of a few decades ago, the feds put armed “AIR MARSHALS” on many flights. While some correctly argued that a fuselage punctured by a bullet at 35,000 feet MIGHT – repeat MIGHT bring the plane down – hijackings fell off.

One thing we know for sure about the four craft hijacked on 9/11: They ALL CAME DOWN and THEY ALL DIED!!

And to those who will inevitably – and stupidly – argue that pilots and FOs just cannot be trusted with the decision about when it’s time to pull a trigger, better tell the up to 400 folks sitting in the back that the guys up front are judgment-impaired!

Personally, I’d prefer to take my chances with a rapid decompression than watch some madman take MY flight into a building or the ground at 500 mph. That was the final experience of 266 fellow humans on 9/11. I KNOW I – like they – won’t survive that!

It’s again the old, old story: There aren’t TOO many weapons out there. It’s that the touchy-feely, warm-fuzzy PC crowd now sees to it that ONLY THE WRONG PEOPLE HAVE THEM!

27 posted on 09/13/2001 9:16:14 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: LSJohn
. in fact allowing concealed carry by passengers would eliminate hijacks too.

I am against that. Concealed carry is great for personal protection on the street. The tactical situation is simple - if someone tries to mess with you, you shoot them. Tactics in a hijack situation are vastly more complicated, with hundreds of people in an enclosed space, possible hostages and the itty bitty problem of depressurizing the plane if you don't have the right ammo and the proper shot. I think this is a stopgap measure until a full complement of sky marshalls can be put together. But it's better than nothing.

28 posted on 09/13/2001 9:18:03 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Squantos
Delta will be much too busy to play plane guard.
29 posted on 09/13/2001 9:18:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: LSJohn
Sky Marshal duty is extremely boring and Delta Force personnel are not psychologically equipped to handle a job which which is 99+% sit-and-do-nothing.

No doubt. That is going to be really crummy duty for the poor guy that gets it. It's not like he can even bring a book or something to keep him occupied.

30 posted on 09/13/2001 9:18:58 AM PDT by patlaw_guy
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To: oxi-nato
What is needed now are temporary measures that are not as risk free as ideal permanent measures, but will get America flying again in an expeditious and reasonably safe maner. Reinforce cockpit doors, give the pilots guns, put armed officers in plain clothes on every flight. Ideal methods can come later. As they said 60 years ago:
Keep 'em flyin'!!!
31 posted on 09/13/2001 9:19:21 AM PDT by BrotherJonathan
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To: allend
Good idea, but you probably don't even need that at this point. Anyone attempting to hijack a plane now is going to be attacked by both passengers and crew. I think this latest terrorist stunt has made plane hijackings impossible.

Good point. I hope you are right! However, it will not stop suicide nuts who don't care how they die.

32 posted on 09/13/2001 9:26:45 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: oxi-nato
Hate to say this, but I was introduced to Delta Force by one of those stupid action movies so common in the 80s.
33 posted on 09/13/2001 9:30:20 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: patlaw_guy
It's not like he can even bring a book or something to keep him occupied.

I can't imagine a job where you have to watch airline passangers! What a waste of time and resources and good training. Arm the flight crews, stupid! (not you....I'm just venting).

34 posted on 09/13/2001 9:31:01 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: oxi-nato
Don't waste your "best" on a "Maytag Repairman" job. Use retired military or police guys. The next time the Terrorists hit everything will be different anyway. It will involve a bus, train, A-Bomb, poisoned water supply, or whatever.
35 posted on 09/13/2001 9:32:20 AM PDT by TRY ONE
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
>>>>>LOOSE LIPS SINKS SHIPS!<<<<<

Second that. Been there, done that.

What you should do next:
1. Take Tonkin gulf post and make SIGNATURE FILE OF YOUR EMAIL PROGRAM out of it !!!
EVERY MESSAGE YOU SEND will be branded

2. Ask from your correspondents to do the same and make signature file.
Message will spread like bushfire.

3. It is not only WHAT you write, but WHEN you write on the internet.
During NATO terrorist bombing of Serbia, people were frantically sending messages after the raids. Although many messages used pre-aranged associations as codes, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME AND ITS PEAKS was telling everything.

So, if anything of any military importance happens, DO NOT RUSH to the keyboard. DO NOTHING, BE QUIET,send message later.

Radical islamic Terrorism is global evil and all Freepers should join in fight to weed out Radical islamists and their supporters. From Langley,VA to Afganistan.

September 11 was 911 call. it's ours to answer.

36 posted on 09/13/2001 9:33:56 AM PDT by DTA
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To: oxi-nato
No offense to anyone here, but this is the stupidest thing I have heard ANY government official say since Warren Christopher was forced to leave the State Department.
37 posted on 09/13/2001 9:34:26 AM PDT by GEC
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To: 2/75 RANGER
My thoughts exactly. Wu, L/75
38 posted on 09/13/2001 9:40:37 AM PDT by Wu
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To: oxi-nato
From personal experience, I can say that this is a waste of the training and capabilities of DELTA operators. While these very highly trained folks are riding around in airplanes (and, given their number, very unlikely to be present during a hijacking) they are NOT available for the rapid-response missions they were trained for.

I know that the politicians have to do SOMETHING, but this is not a good use of these troops.

However, simply allowing sworn law enforcement officers, certain former military Special Ops people, and a few other categories of people with the necessary traing and initiative to be armed on commercial aircraft could almost immediately put enough "acting Sky Marshals" on planes to cover every flight in the U.S., at least.

39 posted on 09/13/2001 9:42:44 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: dirtboy, A+Bert
Wolfowitz just said that Delta Force personnel have a lot of training skymarshals don't need and don't have the law-enforcement training they do need. No decision has been made but using military temporarily until civilian skymarshals can be trained is being contemplated. That's what was done when the skymarshal program was initiated in the '70s.

Bert, the skymarshals dress normally and occupy passenger seats -- they are disguised.

40 posted on 09/13/2001 9:46:16 AM PDT by LSJohn
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