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To: doug from upland
Doug, for eight long years, he searched for a legacy. Now he has succeeded.
Forever and ever, let these thousands of murdered people haunt him daily.
2 posted on
09/12/2001 7:11:54 PM PDT by
IVote2
To: doug from upland
I've been looking for the opportunity to say, that we now have the "Clinton Legacy". In going after Foreign Enemies, Bush shouldn't neglect the Domestic Enemies. Let's start rounding up and prosecuting the Clinton Criminal Gang.
6 posted on
09/12/2001 7:26:19 PM PDT by
Kermit
To: doug from upland
Great spleening - I felt "your pain" no pun intended. I lay all this Clinton worshipping on the laps of the Media. If we're going to make major changes in this country as a result of this terrorist act - then I demand that we start with an overhaul of the journalist, and anchors of these major "so-call" news media.
7 posted on
09/12/2001 7:27:15 PM PDT by
Alissa
To: doug from upland
BRAVO DOUG!!! Looking back,I thank God that the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact collapsed,before that amoral,sociopathic wretch moved into the White House!
The list of crimes perpetrated by the Clinton Gang,from arson and mass murder to High Treason have shown the Democratic Party to be a criminal organization! It has no more claim to legitimacy in American politics,than the Communists,Nazis or the Mafia!
If Al Gore were in the White House now,there can be little doubt,but that he would use the WTC tragedy as an excuse to force upon us,a government worthy of Fidel Castro!
9 posted on
09/12/2001 8:54:40 PM PDT by
NYCON
To: doug from upland
I am mostly a lurker here but I am in total agreement with your latest post. I am listening to the commie Dan Rather the Klinton ass kisser extrodiaire(sp) It is my opinion that we should at the very less make Iraq and a few other countries parking lots.
10 posted on
09/12/2001 9:03:19 PM PDT by
silverkor
(silverkor@yahoo.com)
To: doug from upland
This a truly bullshit-laden posting. Blaming Clinton for this is akin to using logic that a slug is capable of. Do you blame Reagan for our Army barracks in Saudi Arabia being bombed? If you do, at least you'll be consistent in your very simple methods of thinking.
13 posted on
09/13/2001 8:25:30 AM PDT by
sakic
To: doug from upland
Please don't forget that Scumbag used the FBI and BATF for eight years as political tools to terrorize and intimidate his political enemies, specifically pro-lifers and gun owners. Isn't it wonderful to know that X42's FBI had time to keep a dossier on John Cardinal O'Connor, while Osama bin Laden was plotting to kill thousands of innocent Americans? It's also wonderful to recall how Xlinton's BATF had the resources to hound thousands of Mom-n-Pop gunshops out of existence, while ignoring real threats to national security.
And the sickening part is that none of his stupid shills in the media are going to bring this up. They're going to babble about Bush not being "eloquent" instead, as if that mattered. Anything to distract from their own complicity (and I use that word after due consideration!) in Tuesday's events.
14 posted on
09/13/2001 8:32:35 AM PDT by
Campion
To: doug from upland
Ok - so has the media questioned this?
Is this being investigated?
Were any of the thugs Klintoon pardoned at the end of his term involved in this?
Americans deserve to know!
We need to know the names of those Klintoon pardoned and those involved in this!
With Klintoon & Gore out of the country at the time, this stinks to high heaven!
Funny how he decided to move his office from Manhattan to Harlem!
The evil one (Klintoon) is out to destroy this nation!
We need to hammer the media & the authorities about this! We need answers!
22 posted on
09/13/2001 9:13:23 AM PDT by
Ting
To: doug from upland
Hey Doug,
I seem to recall that The CIA under President Ronald Wilson Reagan trained Bin Laden back in the 1980's. Is he and the CIA to bear any responsibility for this?
30 posted on
09/13/2001 11:21:28 AM PDT by
Austim
To: doug from upland
Good work Doug. As I posted this morning, a picture of Hildabeast kissing Arafat's wife should be posted in every paper in New York so those that voted for the beast can see what they have now representing them. I'm so mad I could spit! The Klintons have ruined this country, the morals, the way of life, the security, the military and all the rest of the stuff that they erroded for the last 8 years. Keep up your posts, they are needed and welcome.
32 posted on
09/13/2001 11:49:57 AM PDT by
Lucky2
To: doug from upland
Bump
To: doug from upland
P.S. I also think we need a t-shirt with a picture of the twim towers in flames with clinton's legacy printed on it. His neglect of America is more criminal than the fanatics who thought they were earning a trip to Paradise. I'm sorry. I have never hated another humun being in my life. But I have to constantly pray for the Lord to remove hatred from my heart concerning that "Scumbag".
35 posted on
09/13/2001 12:00:48 PM PDT by
WVNan
To: doug from upland
Before the froth in your mouth cuts off the O2 to your brain: if you want to blame someone for this tragedy, read the following:
http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism
"We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton said during a White House news conference. But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get." and this:
http://www.cnn.com/US/9604/15/anti.terrorism/index.html
The bill, which would cost $1 billion over four years, also calls for "tagging" plastic explosives to better trace them. The bill calls for a study on tagging methods for other explosives such as fertilizer and black powder. Critics say the study provision is a concession to groups opposed to restrictions on explosive materials. The Republicans also dropped the additional wire-tap authority the Clinton administration wanted. U.S. Attorney general Janet Reno had asked for "multi-point" tapping of suspected terrorists, who may be using advanced technology to outpace authorities. and this:
http://www.cnn.com/US/9604/18/anti.terror.bill/index.html
The House voted, 293-133, to send the anti-terrorism bill to President Clinton, who has indicated that he will sign it after he returns from his overseas trip next week. The measure, which the Senate passed overwhelmingly Wednesday evening, is a watered-down version of the White House's proposal. The Clinton administration has been critical of the bill, calling it too weak. The original House bill, passed last month, had deleted many of the Senate's anti-terrorism provisions because of lawmakers' concerns about increasing federal law enforcement powers. Some of those provisions were restored in the compromise bill.
To: doug from upland
I had a lib tell me that it was the GOP dominant Congress that is responsible for the decline of the military because they are the ones who pass the budget. Does anyone have the facts in their back pocket to refute this so I don't have to do a bunch of research. Not being lazy, I just know that bunches of FREEPERS out there have followed this a lot more closely than I have and probably have want I need at their fingertips. Thanks.
To: all
This post was created to focus on a problem that many of us have seen coming --- the destruction of our security. Many were sounding a clarion call but not enough complacent sheeple wanted to listen. We watched a FReeper, Notra Trulock, do his duty and expose what was going on at Los Alamos and be accused of wrong doing. He was ordered by his superiors not to report what he found when he tesified before Congress.
We face more trouble, perhaps even more horrific. Gary Aldrich warned us early on about a security problem. The sheeple didn't care.
Well, it has come home to roost. People had an attitude for eight years that it just didn't matter. So what, Bernie Schwartz sold our most sensitive technology. China is our friend. Right?
Unfortunately, the name calling started on this thread. My love of America was questioned. That effort tried to take away from the focus. There was an unneeded attack on Ronald Reagan whose whole focus in eight years was to build up the strenth of our military. He recognized his most important duty. The eight years of Clinton was dedicated to lessening our strength and our sovereignty.
I had not paid attention to sakic before. I read a couple of posts and, not surprisingly, saw him attack Reagan on another thread.
I hope the rest of us get back on focus. We have a serious security problem. Bush better get in gear and solve eight years of neglect. Fortunately, he has time during his work day to be a leader and is not going to have to spend his time covering up rape and other criminal activity. When world leaders are in the Rose Garden, I don't expect he will be late because of an intern, a cigar, and a sink.
Ronald Reagan certainly made mistakes. He did not, however, make decisions that were for his own personal benefit and to the detriment of his country. His goal suceeded -- he brought down the Berlin Wall. Scumbag did the opposite for eight years. He acted purely in his own self interest. He is a psychopath. We are continuing to pay the price.
I will be very angry if Bush does not move forward with resolve and purpose. We have to remove people who live here, who are not citizens, and who threaten our interests.
It is not that all Republicans are good and all RATS are bad. But during my adult life, I have learned that the RATS cannot be trusted with national security. They are naive at best in thinking that if we are nice to our adversaries, they will be nice to us. (During my early years, I will give credit to JFK. He cared about our security and the defense of this nation.) The RATS of the last couple decades care about abortion, gay rights, minimum wage, etc. and, if given the choice, would probably have minimal funding for the military.
To: all
Besides Admiral Moorer, Paul Sperry shares my ideas in this great article ---
CLICK. Advanced technology was allowed to go to Syria.
To: doug from upland
(This from http://www.boortz.com/nealznuze.htm 9-13-01)
Remember Pan Am 103? Thats the airplane that was brought down by a bomb over Scotland. One Libyan terrorist has been convicted. Was the Libyan government held responsible? There was ample evidence that Kadaffy (there are 341 ways to spell it) was part of the plot. Did we go after him? Hardly. Seth Lipsky, writing in todays Wall Street Journal, tells us that the Clinton Administration even acted on behalf of Libya to prevent families of the victims from pressing claims against the Libyan government. Oh, and that convicted bomber? Guess whos has joined in handling his appeal --- not in American courts, but in the Scottish courts. None other than our Clintonista pal, Alan Dershowitz.
So --- just why did the Clinton Administration work so hard to keep Libya from paying for the Pan Am 103 bombing? Maybe theres a good reason
so, what is it?
Theres more:
American citizen Alisa Flatow was killed in an Iranian funded terrorist attack in Israel. Our congress passed a law that allowed American victims of terrorism to sue in court. Soverign immunity for acts of terrorism was removed by that law. Alisa Flatows family sued, and won a big judgment. When the Flatow family tried to collect under the law the Clinton Administration stepped in and argued against the Flatow family in court. Clinton wanted the Iranians to be allowed to keep their property and assets.
So how is this for fighting terrorism? American citizens are victimized by terrorists. They work through the legal processes even under a law passed by our own congress to recover damages from the parties responsible. Then along comes Bill Clinton and his gang to protect ---- who? The victims? NO! The terrorists!
Can someone please explain this to me?
To: doug from upland
Actually started even before Scumbag, although he didn't help much, did he. Bush Sr. was giving a speech this morning , talking about his days in the CIA. During his watch, HUMINT was greatly curtailed by our own congress, because it was such a dirty business. He said at least 3 times "and it's not pretty", referring to HUMINT ops, sometimes it takes money or women to get the answers you want, you have to deal with sleazy characters that will sell out their own country. I wonder if our "leadership" still thinks it's too dirty a business? There's no way an operation this big would have gone undetected 30 yrs ago.
48 posted on
09/13/2001 3:12:14 PM PDT by
FlyVet
To: doug from upland
Good old doug from upland. Always the voice of panic, pettiness and cheap partisanship. Keep up the good work! This is what America needs at a time like this.
49 posted on
09/13/2001 3:12:15 PM PDT by
nicknack
To: doug from upland
Just saw TRASH on NBC saying, in the same breath, how Reagan and Clinton ROSE to the occassion when tragedy struck!
I turned to my wife and said, "The only 'occassion' Clinton ever 'rose' to was a BLOW JOB!"
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