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Are we too quick to assume this is over??
self | 09/12/2001 | Paine's Ghost

Posted on 09/12/2001 4:12:40 AM PDT by Paine's Ghost

I awoke this morning and was watching the tv and began to notice that the general atmosphere is not like a country going to war but a community which has just survived a tornado or hurricane. The belief is that the storm is over and it is time to pick up the pieces and start over. Guess again.

During my tenure at the CDC's Emergency Response Coordinating Group I was privy to a study of terrorist attack. So many scenarios included biologics. If they were released yesterday, the effects would begin to be noticed tomorrow. A pick-up truck driving down the road with a aerosal canister in the back is all that is required. We could be replete with suitcase bombs ready to trigger at anytime of with a call from a cell phone. The posiibilities are endless. And of course, their are always the nuclear/biological threats to Israel at the "two" of a one - two punch.


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I don't want to sound like an alarmist, as if that could be inappropriate, but I think America should be prepared for considerbly more violence.
1 posted on 09/12/2001 4:12:40 AM PDT by Paine's Ghost
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To: Paine's Ghost
I think you're right, and the only thing that could slow it down would be a credible demonstration of will. That's probably the only language they'll understand, and it's universal.

A burning cinder formerly known as "Kabul." would be a start.

2 posted on 09/12/2001 4:17:27 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Paine's Ghost
I think you're right.

We need to get used to the idea that we are going to suffer more civilian casualties in this war.

That's one reason we have to start killing the bastards.

3 posted on 09/12/2001 4:22:47 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: Paine's Ghost
Excellent point. What has not been discussed anywhere, is the WHY? of the attack, and the WHY NOW?....This was carefully planned, and obviously has an objective....there is, sadly, an excellent probability that there will be follow-ups in the coming days...but not related to aviation. There are not enough forces to guard all the bridges, tunnels, dams, ballparks, etc....after a few days, peoplemget tired, the level of attention to details slip, boredom sets in..then they are vulnerable...
4 posted on 09/12/2001 4:25:52 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Paine's Ghost
Very little chance of any more hijackings right now, as the USAF is patrolling the skies.

But you're right, biological warfare could be Phase II. Which is why we have to say the HELL with world opinion. Take out EVERYTHING and ANYTHING related to Osama Bin Laden and all other terrorist groups that have even hinted at hostility to the United States. DO IT NOW!

5 posted on 09/12/2001 4:26:25 AM PDT by NYS_Eric
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To: Paine's Ghost,Thinkin' Gal,babylonian,Governor StrangeReno,MissAmericanPie,TrueBeliver9,Jeremiah Jr.
Anyone pulling off a plan this complex and hideous may well have back-up plans in the works.  Everyone should take this very, very seriously.  It is unlikely that it is over and it may be only the beginning.
6 posted on 09/12/2001 4:27:28 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Cyber Liberty
I heard COl. Hackworth being interviewed before he was cut off to show the "whore of babylon's" self-serving public service announcement, stated that we have been fighting a 21st century war with a 20th century mentality. I wanted to hear him elaborate but schumer and the slut cut him off.
7 posted on 09/12/2001 4:30:51 AM PDT by Paine's Ghost
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To: Paine's Ghost
This is just the beginning! Get ready, keep your eyes open!
8 posted on 09/12/2001 4:34:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Paine's Ghost
Hubby mentioned that in a 'war', the first strike comes by air. The second comes by ground.

IF that's correct 'thinking', wouldn't that mean things like, car/truck bombs, school terrorism, water supplies/bio weapons?

If these animals have Plan B ready, and it's as well-executed as yesterday's, it makes sense that they would have it set for places that do not have a CCW on the books. Americans are POed and reeling after yesterday's events. I don't think a suspicious acting foreigner would last very long in a CCW area.

9 posted on 09/12/2001 4:38:37 AM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: Paine's Ghost
Col. Hackworth was on Fox and said something similar. I'm guessing that the CDC, Ft. Detrick, and NEST teams are on alert for a WMD event.
10 posted on 09/12/2001 4:39:02 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: ken5050
There are not enough forces to guard all the bridges Listening to the radio this morning (I think it was CBS news)reporting the arrest of several men in a car full of explosives who were heading for the GW Bridge yesterday.
11 posted on 09/12/2001 4:42:32 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: Paine's Ghost
It can't be over until we've had our turn.
12 posted on 09/12/2001 4:47:55 AM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Paine's Ghost
I had trouble going to sleep last night for these very fears. Former Secretary George Schultz said last night that these guys are immaginative. There are many other tactics that need to be thought through to help prevent another attack however, we need to get at the root of the problem. ie go after them.
13 posted on 09/12/2001 4:48:55 AM PDT by aquawrench
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To: Paine's Ghost
Yesterday's events will only whet the appetites of wantabees.
14 posted on 09/12/2001 4:53:36 AM PDT by oyez
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To: Tree of Liberty
Precisely, if you havn't read this then do so now.

Demon in the freezer

Be afraid.....be very afraid.
We must wipe out this nest of heretical moslems now to make the world safe for democracy......sorry couldn't help myself.

15 posted on 09/12/2001 5:00:53 AM PDT by Politically Correct
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To: oyez, squantos, logos, fred mertz, Wally Cleaver, pocat, sauropod, the irate magistrate
Yesterday's events will only whet the appetites of wantabees.

My thoughts exactly. How many tons of fertilizer are being bought by some clown that wants to make the headlines? We can't put our heads in the sand, but we have to take an active role. It seems in our community like nothng had happened out of the ordinary. Just a bief bump in the road. People don't realize what the toll will be. We need to get serious about this and quit worrying that the stock market will be closed.

16 posted on 09/12/2001 5:01:14 AM PDT by SLB
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To: StarFan
Heard that last night, supposedly, the truck had enough explosives to DESTROY the GWB!!!
17 posted on 09/12/2001 5:02:05 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Paine's Ghost
I posted this on another thread, thought it concurred with your feelings.

: "I had similar thoughts on this. I find this not to be an act of terrorism, but an act of war.

Terrorism is one target, carefully selected, in order to gain attention. Any of the 4 hijacked planes, alone, could qualify as an act of terrorism. The attention that this group (I'm looking at you, Taliban) was searching for could have been accomplished with one plane to the WTC, or the Pentagon, or Camp David.

I have this feeling that this is just a start of a war that has been planned for a long time. That we will see a "phase II" that may be a series of car bombs and/or human bombs and it seems to be inevitable to me. I don't even want to fathom a 'phase III'.

I don't mean to be so cryptic, but I can't shake the feeling that this is just the beginning of something that could be incredibly ugly with many casualities. That this group, is counting on us to focus our attention on the airliners, so they can target us at what they beleive is another weakness (our sheer number of autos that move freely about in this country ) and to cause more death.

I hate to sound so reactionary, but I am finding myself in the mindset of the necessity of a Middle East that is fully occupies by US troops and troublesome regimes being forcibly removed. "

18 posted on 09/12/2001 5:24:18 AM PDT by francisandbeans
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To: SLB
Whatever else they are, these people aren't stupid. Insane, maybe, but not stupid. It would be stupid to punch your enemy in the nose, and then stand there and wait for him to stop the bleeding before you hit him again.

Retaliation is expected, but it is also assumed that it will be a few days before it comes. Criminals don't ignore open windows...

19 posted on 09/12/2001 5:53:05 AM PDT by logos
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To: francisandbeans
Yes, I've had that feeling since it wasn't just one plane. There's no official claim of responsibility. It's all quite unusual to me.

We don't know what, if anything, was prevented by the FAA ordering flights to land immediately yesterday. We don't know if the flight Mrs. Olsen was on was intended for the Pentagon or meant for the White House as suggested by FoxNews. It's unclear what the Pitts. plane was meant for Camp David, the Pentagon--what?

I fear that this isn't the last act in this round. Real psychological terrorism would require a 'rest' before more efforts. It's a bit like, as was pointed out on FoxNews, they waited until the rescue crews were at the WTC before the 2nd plane hit. Apparently this is common in terrorist attacks in Israel, Ireland and so on.

20 posted on 09/12/2001 6:38:42 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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