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Bin Laden denies committing US attacks (but says he supports it)
ZDNetAsia ^ | Wednesday September 12, 1:16 PM

Posted on 09/11/2001 11:04:07 PM PDT by HAL9000

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To: HAL9000
President Bush, in the meanwhile, has said he would "make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."
About time. They wanted a war, now they've got one. What did these terrorists think? we'd just sit home and watch another rerun of Seinfeld? Bomb them.
21 posted on 09/11/2001 11:17:46 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: HAL9000
Let's just cut Afganistan off from the civilized world for a generation or two.

Destroy the power plants, transmission lines, POL dumps, pipelines, train and car bridges and tunnels and the airports.

Make it impossible for these insane cultists to get out to the world to do any more harm. Cut them off so thoroughly that a jeep can't get out, and a strong hiker only with great difficulty in about a month of walking over mountains. Use Afganistan's geography against them. Reduce them to a 12th century standard of living.

Then tell Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan etc "this is our new policy for dealing with nations which harbor terrorists".

22 posted on 09/11/2001 11:18:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: undergroundwarrior
Thursday, 30 August 2001 9:58 (ET)

Taliban slammed over bin Laden appointment

MOSCOW, Aug. 30 (UPI) -- Russia's Foreign Ministry on Thursday condemned the appointment of Saudi terrorism suspect Osama bin Laden as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of Afghanistan's ruling Taliban regime, the official RIA Novosti news agency reported.

Bin Laden's appointment confirmed that a center of international terrorism is being set up in Taliban-controlled territory, the ministry said in a statement.

"Pseudo-religious values are being used as a cover to prepare a bridgehead for expansion of militant extremism and separatism far beyond the region's borders," added the statement.

This month, Russian media quoted Pakistan's Nation daily as saying that the Taliban had named bin Laden commander of their troops. Afghanistan's civil war concerns the Kremlin as hundreds of Russian border guards monitor the Afghan-Tajik border and a potential spill of violence could plunge the whole region into chaos.

Moreover, the Taliban's aim to build an orthodox Islamic state has given rise to many Islamic extremist movements in the former Soviet republics in Central Asia. In recent years, Islamic insurgents from Afghanistan launched raids on Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

The Taliban's ongoing clashes with the Northern Alliance movement backing ousted President Burhanuddin Rabbani -- the leader of the government general recognized by international organizations -- have alerted Russia and its partners as arms smuggling, drug trafficking, kidnapping and other crimes have flourished along the Afghan-Tajik border.

On Thursday, Moscow also condemned the appointment of Juma Namangani as bin Laden's deputy. Namangani, an ethnic Uzbek, was liked to a number of raids on Kyrgyzstan's Batken district over the last three years. Namangani advocates creation of an Islamic state run by a regime similar to the Taliban's and spreading over Central Asia.

"Incorporation of the international terrorists' leaders into the ruling structures of the Taliban shows the need to take decisive measures to collectively counter global challenges that are put forward from the Taliban-controlled territory," said the statement.

-- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved.

24 posted on 09/11/2001 11:18:56 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: HAL9000
"HOLOCAUST (holuhkost) n. 1. A great slaughter or sacrifice of life, especially by fire. 2. A burnt sacrifice to be entirely consumed by fire." -New Revised Edition, The Grosset Webster Dictionary (1966)

We will NEVER forget what these terrorists have done to America!


25 posted on 09/11/2001 11:20:54 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: undergroundwarrior
What was that line a FReeper posted today? (from a bishop remarking on prisoners: (now slightly tailored for this situation )
KILL THEM ALL. AllAH WILL KNOW WHICH ONES ARE HIS!
26 posted on 09/11/2001 11:21:27 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: HAL9000
O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, That I am meek and gentle with these butchers! Thou art the ruins of the noblest man That ever lived in the tide of times. Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood! Over thy wounds now do I prophesy (Which like dumb mouths do ope their ruby lips To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue) A curse shall light upon the limbs of men; Domestic fury and fierce civil strife Shall cumber all the parts of Italy; Blood and destruction shall be so in use, And dreadful objects so familiar, That mothers shall but smile when they behold Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war; All pity choked with custom of fell deeds, And Caesar's spirit ranging for revenge, With Ate by his side come hot from hell, Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war, That this foul deed shall smell above the earth With carrion men, groaning for burial.

Marc Antony in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar

Bush should ask Congress to declare war on Afghanistan, and any other nation that harbors these terrorists. Kill them, their families, and their friends. By doing this, the world will be safe again. Without this, we will be waiting for the next massacre.

27 posted on 09/11/2001 11:22:19 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: Heisenburger
I hate to sow the seeds of doubt here, but I don't think it was bin Laden or Arabs at all. They say they found an arabic flight training manual in a vehicle??? After meticulously coordinating an attack of this scale, how could they be so careless?? The manual seems like a plant to me. I think someone far more sophisticated orchestrated these attacks and is trying to blame it on arabs. The Chinese maybe? Honestly, it could be anyone.
28 posted on 09/11/2001 11:23:01 PM PDT by Dark Schwa
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To: HAL9000
Let's not forget the Palestinians who were ecstatic that thousands of Americans were killed. I don't care if the Palestinians were not responsible for this, TAKE THEM OUT!
29 posted on 09/11/2001 11:23:03 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: Rome2000
This is the thanks we get for helping these towel wearing MF'S fight the Soviets.

Well, they are fresh out of friends, and they will soon pay the price.

30 posted on 09/11/2001 11:23:21 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Dark Schwa
I don't think he realized that Bush would be so pissed. Clinton never was. Twin Towers is the CLINTON LEGACY...
31 posted on 09/11/2001 11:24:42 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: Travis McGee
I like your policy!!
32 posted on 09/11/2001 11:24:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: HAL9000
Fox News (cable) is now reporting that their "sources" have told Fox that "law enforcement" agencies are now "99% sure that Osama Bin Laden" and his cells are behind the attacks upon the United States and the US government.

Three primary harbors of support for Osama Bin Laden and training for his cells are Afghanistan, Pakistan, and China, among others.

Bush said that the terrorist and those who harbor them will face our counter-attack. He made no distinction between the terrorists themselves and those who harbor them.

Osama Bin Laden resides in Afghanistan.

Therefore, if the FOX report is accurate, than the only proper response is to tell Afghanistan, both the current government, specifically the Taliban, as well as counter-governments within Afghanistan which may have sympathy for Bin Laden, that they have two days to turn Osama Bin Laden over to the US authorities or we will declare war on Afghanistan and that their major cities and factories will undergo major air strikes and other military offensives. If the Afghan government, the Taliban, claims it is beyond their power to apprehend Bin Laden, then we strike immediately without waiting the two days.

Bush made no distinction between the terrorists themselves and the nations who harbor them. Very good. Now, we don't know exactly who harbored them. And, what if it is China? Because, intelligence has shown that indeed China gives support to terrorists. I hope Bush is sincere in what he says, because for the most part he is a vacillating whimp as has been shown in almost every case, including our dealings with China. So, I am hoping that the political situation will not let him whimpy out again. I pray not. Because this isn't maybe war, this is war. Whoever did this, we are at war with them. This is war. Whimpy out again, and the next attack upon America will come again, next time more horrible, because if this isn't war than nothing is. If it turns out that Pakistan, Syria, or any other country also had a minor hand in this including Palestinians or China, we send strategic strikes including counter-terrorist hits to take out any of those individuals who assisted this no matter where they are located. We arrest any United Nations official in New York who defends the recent attacks upon the United States, and then take whatever funds of theirs we can and then deport them.

33 posted on 09/11/2001 11:24:50 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Travis McGee
Let's just cut Afganistan off from the civilized world for a generation or two. Destroy the power plants, transmission lines, POL dumps, pipelines, train and car bridges and tunnels and the airports.

Umm... The Taliban has been doing all this to Afghanistan all by themselves. We'd just be helping them out.
34 posted on 09/11/2001 11:25:20 PM PDT by Dark Schwa
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To: Brian_Baldwin
font off . . .
35 posted on 09/11/2001 11:25:56 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Dark Schwa
I think 56 women could overcome little chinese men taking over an airplane. No, don't think the chinese pulled this off. Besides, there were lots of chinese companies in those buildings.
36 posted on 09/11/2001 11:27:20 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: blam
I'll bet Iraq had a hand in this assault.

They're all talking to each other... The American media can blither on vapidly however it chooses; Bin Ladin, the Taliban, the Iranian mullahs, and Saddam are all of one mind when it comes to America, and however much they bicker among themselves, they will act in concert when the opportunity comes to attack us.
The Arabs have a saying: "Me against my brother, me and my brother against my cousin, me, my brother and my cousin against the Infidel".
Personally, the Trade Center attack surprised me, because I've been expecting a nuclear attack with Pakistani-supplied nuclear arms, not something like this.

Yeah, Bin Ladin is going to deny it - what do you expect, that he'll *admit* it so he can make himself a target? He's not stupid, you know. He and the rest of them have specific political objectives: Make the U.S. lose its resolve to support Israel. For that, they don't need to claim credit for any of these attacks; all they have to do is make us suffer enough that we start questioning whether supporting Israel in the Middle East is worth the lives of tens of thousands of American urbanites.

This war that everyone has suddenly discovered that we're in, goes all the way back to the Crusades; maybe all the way back to the Babylonian Captivity. But it's become far more dangerous now that the orangutans have learned to use modern technology...

37 posted on 09/11/2001 11:28:18 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Dark Schwa
How about we close our fonts!!



And as far as evidence being planted, a terrorist is GOING TO plant as much evidence as possible to PROVE that they indeed did the act!! This is the terrorist SOP. What is the use of sacrificing your life if no one knows why.

This government conspiracy thing is gotten WAY out of hand. Bin Laden was either directly, or indirectly involved, so was the Taliban, by keeping this scum safe. It is time to declare war, and be done with this pussyfooting around!!

38 posted on 09/11/2001 11:28:30 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: HAL9000
mother: osama, did you take the falafel from the jar?
osama: no mother, honest!
39 posted on 09/11/2001 11:29:42 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Dark Schwa
Good point, but then it is also unusual for an act of terrorism to occur without anyone claiming responsibility for it.
40 posted on 09/11/2001 11:34:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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