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I Urge An End To Calls For Retaliation Against "Islam"
Self | September 11, 2001 | Self

Posted on 09/11/2001 4:07:58 PM PDT by Illbay

Just above the text box into which I'm typing, it says, and I quote, "NO racist or violence posts."

Ladies and Gentlemen, FReepers of every race, CREED and color, I urge an immediate moratorium on the nauseatingly bigoted comments directed against "Islam," or "Muslims," or any negative reference to anyone strictly because of his or her religion. FR is no place for this trash, and I'd like to publicly call on the Esteemed Moderators to hunt down and erase all such tripe from FR.


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To: bkwells
The clod hard fact is that ALL stereotypes are rooted in fact.
21 posted on 09/15/2001 9:31:42 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: Illbay
Islam considers you an infidel worthy of death, so go ahead and think warm squishy thoughts about them.

Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet, with much of that growth stimulated at the business end of a gun barrel.

Islam and China are the greatest threats against the West for the forseeable future, and both have declared us to be their enemy. Common sense says we should duke it out now while we still have a chance of winning.

22 posted on 09/15/2001 9:33:42 PM PDT by grunt03 (live.free.or.die)
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To: Illbay
Wonderful sentiments, and I agree with them. Were it possible, I would like to avoid killing a single innocent in this conflict.

But do not kid yourself about the nature of our enemy. We are not fighting an isolated band of outlaws. We cannot ensure our safety by treating this as a police operation.

There is a context to these attacks and a system that supports the perpetrators. The context is fundamentalist Islam, and the system that supports it includes everyone from Saddam Hussein to the imams who preach war to the people celebrating in the streets of East Jerusalem.

This IS a clash of civilizations, just like WWII. Would it have been right for us to kill more Japanese than absolutely necessary? No, of course not. But it was necessary to destroy the Imperial cult and reconstruct Japan as a modern liberal democracy.

We may need to do the same thing in the Islamic world.

23 posted on 09/15/2001 9:34:42 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: Romulus
Apposite.
24 posted on 09/15/2001 9:35:43 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Illbay
Moderate Muslims need to clearly make the case that as Americans they support the freedom of all people to choose their own religion. Do these moderates tolerate to the idea of individual Muslims deciding for themselves that Mohammed is not a prophet of God and speaking out about their beliefs?

Islamic theology requires that any Muslim who turns from Isalm and Mohammed should be killed. Period. Moderate American Muslims need to clearly denouce this aspect to their religion. Otherwise, their religion is incompatible with the United States Constitution.

25 posted on 09/15/2001 9:35:50 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: Illbay
THIS WAS "A RACIST AND VIOLENT POST"
AND AMERICA HAS A RIGHT TO RESPOND WITHOUT BEING BLAMED
FOR BEING THE VICTIM AND BEING TOLD IT HAS TO BOW TO ANYONE'S PRESSURE
NOT TO RESPOND IN THE MANNER IT SEES FIT!


26 posted on 09/15/2001 9:36:04 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Storm Orphan
Because we need to punish the guilty, not those guilty by association.

If they are associated with terrorism, then they are guilty!

27 posted on 09/15/2001 9:37:02 PM PDT by bkwells
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To: Illbay
Communist Party USA
Press Release

"Innocent Arab people both at home and abroad and immigrants across the U.S. face a danger of racist and xenophobic attacks. We call on the Bush Administration, and all state and local authorities to take measures to guarantee everyone's safety. The danger is that the cycle of violence will spiral out of control with more death and destruction..."

From the CPUSA to Greenpeace to Indymedia, this is the tune the left is singing. They can't come out and support the terrorists, they can't continue business as usual, so they have decided to turn this into a civil rights issue and lecture Americans on how bigoted and evil they are. Some here buy into it. If there was going to be retribution against Islam in this country, it would have happened by now. This post is insulting. Especailly considering what some here have said about certain Christian groups in the past. Isn't that right Illbay?

28 posted on 09/15/2001 9:37:31 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: DistantVoice, publius6961, dennisw, veronica
pinging you
29 posted on 09/15/2001 9:37:32 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: TBP
All this "tolerance" tripe reminds me of Neville Chamberain. Racial profiling works. Why should cops harass old folks at a rest home when looking for a liqour store robbery suspect in an inner city. Your odds are much higher pulling over a beat up cadillac with 4 young black males with lots of jewelry and rap music blasting. It is just common sense. Same with the Islamics, most are if not strident fanatics hell bent on detroying the "Great Satan" (USA), they are at least sympathetic, or their silence is their complicity as well. If they do not condemn this crap their silence says they approve, and may join in if they think they can get away with it.

So what does the human body do when invaded or infested with hostile organisms? IT declares war and seeks out and destroys anything that resembles the enemy. Same with the body politic, do we have a strong immmune system or are we HIV positive ie: Tolerant.

Toleration of corruption, amorality, sloth, and deviance has created the decay that has led us to our present state. Tolerance allowed Clinton to get elected and stay in office, same with Condit, Marion Barry, etc.

Intolerance would have eliminated such trash soon as it was identified. Intolerance and judgement is necessary for an entity to survive.

30 posted on 09/15/2001 9:37:50 PM PDT by CSSAlabama (Clinton/Condit2004@666.org)
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To: cicero's_son
Indeed: The aim need not be vengeance against, but rather incapacitation of, the perps.
31 posted on 09/15/2001 9:37:59 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Illbay
You loss every arguement fair and square, and now you want to shut everyone else up? Why should't the rug be pulled out from under you?
32 posted on 09/15/2001 9:38:48 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Illbay
I urge that we keep the high road.

You're unbelieveable!

You ridiculed the genuine and heartfelt feelings of fans of Dale Earnhardt when he died because "he was just a race car driver," yet you implore critics to back off a gutter religion which calls for the destruction of those who don't embrace Allah!

When I see Arab nations calling for a fatwa against Bin Laden, I'll take these rags seriously.

33 posted on 09/15/2001 9:40:26 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: LarryLied
Bingo.

It's no longer possible for the usual America-hating crowd to overtly support our enemies. Therefore, they retreat to the ever safe ground of civil rights and "diversity."

I don't want to hear another G-damned thing about the poor suffering Muslims. Either they are Americans (unhyphenated-Americans), suffering in solidarity with the rest of us, or they are not worthy of attention. It is an insult to the dead to discuss such trivialities as a couple of kids waving flags at a mosque when some 10,000 innocent people are DEAD.

34 posted on 09/15/2001 9:41:20 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: Illbay
oh brother.
35 posted on 09/15/2001 9:41:32 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Illbay, LarryLied
"This post is insulting."

LarryLied is absolutely right Illbay. And you're wasting bandwidth to boot. Illbay, put down your baggie of grass - you're coming across paranoid and delusional.

36 posted on 09/15/2001 9:42:09 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: grunt03
Islam considers you an infidel worthy of death, so go ahead and think warm squishy thoughts about them.

Of course you're right. If given a chance, the Islamic radicals would clamor for all of our deaths.

Which is why I feel sorry for fools like this guy Illbay. 5000 dead and an unknown number of Islamic sleepers waiting to swing into action, and he's lecturing his countrymen on "racism."

37 posted on 09/15/2001 9:42:13 PM PDT by Blade
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To: Blade, ethical
unbelievable. btw, the dflp or whatever they are need to go down. yasser is dead meat. and all the guys that come near him.
39 posted on 09/15/2001 9:43:15 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: sinkspur
I agree with you. Again.

Man...this is getting scary. :-)

40 posted on 09/15/2001 9:43:37 PM PDT by B Knotts
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