I Urge An End To Calls For Retaliation Against "Islam"

Self | September 11, 2001 | Self

[Illbay]

Just above the text box into which I'm typing, it says, and I quote, "NO racist or violence posts."

Ladies and Gentlemen, FReepers of every race, CREED and color, I urge an immediate moratorium on the nauseatingly bigoted comments directed against "Islam," or "Muslims," or any negative reference to anyone strictly because of his or her religion. FR is no place for this trash, and I'd like to publicly call on the Esteemed Moderators to hunt down and erase all such tripe from FR.

[FITZ]

Jewish people are trashed by neo-Nazis, the hatred has been that vile.

Are you trashing ALL Nazis? Are you trying to lump them all together? Is that PC ---this is a PC thread you know. Maybe you should becareful about racism, just because they were blue-eyed blonds doesn't mean you should hate them.

[Don Joe]

"This will require math, so try real hard to focus."

You lost it right there, condescension-boy. Our nation is at war, and you think it appropriate to rise to the defense of the enemy by insulting those who oppose your efforts?

"XXX million represents the number of practicing Muslims worldwide.

"XX thousand represents the number of Muslims who actively engage in terrorism."

Ah, I see. You don't have any actual numbers at all to back up your bullshit.

It requires "math"? Must be that "new" math I keep hearing about. Real math doesn't try to prove an assertion with smoke and bullshit instead of numbers.

"Our justified outraged with terrorists does not give cover to religious bigotry."

Up yours too, bozo.

When 1.3 billion islamics declare war on my country and way of life -- even if by assent to what the talibanners are doing -- I'll be damned if I let your bleeding heart lies about "religious bigotry" deter me from calling it as it is.

[Don Joe]

"You're an idiot."

What an amazingly concise way of saying, "No, actually I don't have any rational argument to what you've said."

Your mother must be very proud of you today.

[FITZ]

will simply help the enemies of FR write us all off as a bunch of racists.

It's interesting the way times have changed. When we fought the Nazis in WWII no one cared about what race they were, we just knew we had to destroy them. We did go after their leaders, but many others did have to die. I think the Islamic Jihad are like the Nazis very much, they also hate the Jews and they like Hitler wanted to kill all Jews. If there are good Islamics, there were good Germans. But it was hard to tell the difference, maybe not all the German soldiers were Nazis but they had to die for fighting on the wrong side.

[Don Joe]

"Dehumanizing the enemy is critical in this transformation process."

Fortunately, this enemy is doing that for us.

"PS. I nuke the entire Moslem world to save ONE American life....its called partiotism."

At the rate things are going, it may also be called "necessity".

[Don Joe]

"Perhaps Satan is working through you as well"

Perhaps your head is shoved so far up your ass you can't see daylight.

"Perhaps you're just a prick"

Then perhaps you shouldn't provoke me. You wouldn't be a radical islamic by chance, would you? You seem to reason like one.

"I neither know nor care...

Ah, ignorance is bliss. Happy happy joy joy.

Don't bother adjusting your tinfoil turban, I doubt you could cope with unfiltered reality.

[DJ MacWoW]

70% of Afganistans population is women. Most of the men are dead. Don't you really listen to the news? It's very easy to preach about revolt until you're starving, unarmed and female. Bet you didn't read the whole thing either. Stop being a hothead. We need cool thought and planning, not uninformed, gut reaction.

[Don Joe]

"Or maybe you don't know what your talking about in that Islam considers infidels to be atheists/agnostics while it considers Christians and Jews to be 'people of the book' meaning they are on a same footing."

I don't know what you're tokin' through your hookah, but man, you've got the strangest concept of "a same footing."

Do you have any idea of how islam treats Christians and Jews? Any idea????

[Cautor]

Get screwed!!

[Don Joe]

"Nah, instead why don't YOU explain the concept to me."

I'm not paid to try to teach the obvious to the unwilling.

"What is it exactly that you are looking for?"

Someone left a description on the Gadsden Flag.

[Don Joe]

"He demonized Jews after convincing people the Jews were engaged in a conspiracy that killed tens of thousands after WW1."

You're a real piece of work, Agitpropboy.

Words fail me in trying to adequately convey my contempt for someone who would attempt to equate hitler's lies about the Jews with America's genuine loss at the hands of your islamic brethren.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Let's cut the political correctness. Radical Islam is the enemy. My grandpa, a first generation American of Syrian Moslem family, wouldn't hesitate to shout it from the rooftops if he were alive. He died when I was 8, he was the epitome of American patriotism, and he loved Arabs, but he was American first, and my grandma told me all the criticisms he had about evils of the society he left, he didn't just talk about the good points.

I picked out the names above that are most likely Arabs or Americans of Arabic descent. There might be more, or less, but there has to be at least some blood spilled in those bombings that was Arab. Do you think their families, if they are Arabs, want us to shut up? I'm not going to.

Arabic sounding names above among the killed: Suhr, Feehan, Hannafin, Lazar, Hashem, Salie, Zarba, Betru, Khan x 2, Nassaney, Shearer x 2, Bishundat, Doctor, Hein, Milam, Ramsaur, Abad, Barbara, Betia, Chua, Fatwa, Hafiz, Hussa, Khalaf, Mohamed, Saber, Safi, Shah, Shahid, Shefi.

BTW this is the mother of all vanity posts.

[Don Joe]

"70% of Afganistans population is women. Most of the men are dead. Don't you really listen to the news? It's very easy to preach about revolt until you're starving, unarmed and female."

Funny how they don't seem to have any trouble finding enough "men" to shoot the women who dare leave their houses, or to hijack airplanes full of women and children, isn't it.

Hint: don't persue a career in debate.

[Prodigal Daughter]

From the Arabic sounding names of the victims of the attack I just posted above, it looks like there are some mothers who are in anguish this week who might be Moslems, Arabs, or especially Americans of Arabic descent. Let's hear from them if we want to put a face on the Arabic world. Those are the Arabs that need our prayers and our support and our sensitivity, not the enemies. I'm out of this thread, the Arab part of my blood is so boiling I can't stand it, and if someone wants to accuse me of stereotyping, they can stuff it.

[texlok]

>PS. I nuke the entire Moslem world to save ONE American life....its called partiotism.

Okay, start traveling around this country and visit all the Moslems who live here, who have served their country in the military, who have helped their fellow Americans out, who are peaceful, who risked their lives to come here to escape persecution elsewhere, and you look them in the eye and you tell them "I don't care that your an American, I don't care that you may have lost a brother or uncle in Vietnam or Korea or France. Your a Moslem, and because a few of your religion committed a horrible act, you must die".

Think about this, when you get the guts up to do what you feel is patriotic, and you try and burn down a Mosque or start killing Moslems in Anycity, USA, your going to find people like me there, to defend their right to live free as Americans and to practice the religion they see fit. I did not spend a good part of my adult life serving this country to see Hitleresque radical Christians like you defame this great country or this great religion. You obviously need to go back and read the Constitution. Pay attention to the part about the practicing of religion. Pay attention to the part about the rights of indidivuals.

People didn't come up to me after OKC and after the branch davidian fiasco and say "YOUR A CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU GOING TO BOMB ANY MORE FEDERAL BUILDINGS OR MOLEST ANY MORE CHILDREN?".

People like you give the rest of us Christians and Americans bad names. Go hide in your cave and spread your propaganda elsewhere. Nobody here wants to hear the ravings of a Hitler wannabe. The people here want those who are responsible to be eliminated. They don't want to see the majority of a religion wiped out because of the actions of a few.

[CSSAlabama]

The time for "acceptance" is over. Islam in general holds a great antipathy against the West. Some of this has justification as in our decaying morals and character etc., but mostly they just want worlwide domination of their way of life, as with most religions, "they are right and all others are infidels condemned to hell". With this back drop most Muslims are at least somewhat sympathetic with war against America and therefore are potential "harbors".

Granted there are some Muslims who really appreciate what the USA has to offer, but how many more bombs need to go off in crowded areas before you will agree to go with "racial profiling". Israel is a perfect example of what we are about to face. THis is especially true becuase of our open border with Mexico. Arabs can be easily mistaken for Mexicans and can come in via trucks without any inspection via NAFTA and drive right to an airport and hijack a cargo plane, or to a sporting event, or whatever, this all because the all knowing NWO does not beleive in borders.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee!

[texlok]

>Do you have any idea of how islam treats Christians and Jews? Any idea????

As a matter of fact I do. I shared a tent with a Moslem for six months and we had many many late night discussions about religion. This Moslem happened to be in the US Army, but judging by some people on here, that would be impossible as all Moslems hate the US, so why he would volunteer for the Army is a mystery, just as it would be impossible for his father to have been drafted and to have served in Vietnam (which he did - proudly I might add - I have visited his home and he has a wall in his office dedicated to his service there, with an American flag next to it).

Do you have any idea that Moslems do not equal radical Moslems?

Do you as a Christian expect to be judged by the actions of Christian Radicals?

[Illbay]

This is really rich, Billy boy. Were you planning on also putting a moratorium on your nauseatingly bigoted comments on Israel?

Perhaps you ought to clarify for the people here, that to YOU, "bigoted against Israel" means "preferring U.S. interests over those of Israel."

Let me tell you the impression I have of you.

You sound like you are probably a "professional" Israel booster. You may even write for one of those pro-Israel newsletters, or be a lobbyist in D.C. for Israeli interests.

If that is the case then what I see is someone who is going to stand on "safe" American soil, far from the strife and the contention going on in your own chosen country, where you don't have to be in danger, where you don't have to see the strife and the bloodshed.

Then, from that position of safety you are going to pretend you are a "hero" of the Israeli cause. You don't seem to care much about America's interests--you've gone on record as saying Jonathan Pollard should be released and that the deaths of American sailors by Israeli bullets was justified by Israeli interests. Okay, fair enough.

So why are you here? How are you any better than those pro-Islamic extremist academics and others who are now a blight on our shores?

In short, if you are here, but you champion the interests of ANY OTHER NATION than the United States, then I question whether you are even welcome.

I support Israel's right to exist, to defend herself, and to kill her enemies. But that's on principle.

I DON'T support U.S. involvement in Israeli affairs, whether Israel invites it or not. We have no business there, no more than we have a business being intimately involved in the internal affairs of Great Britain or Canada or Australia or any of our staunch allies (allies that, I might add, have not killed our servicepeople and paid American citizens to steal our secrets).

The ONLY reason we are involved is because of people like you, who have divided loyalties in which the United States takes second place, only. Your kind is offensive to me. If I had anything to say about it you would not be allowed to be here for an extended period of time. You'd be back in Israel where you could pursue your primary loyalties without dishonor.

So, in conclusion, let me say that you are a liar. You don't care about the truth, though. You care only about besmirching ANYONE who you might see as an "enemy" of that political construct known as the State of Israel. You take such an adversarial position because that is the typical modus operandi of Israel's partisans, because you have been allowed BY US to get away with it for so long.

I would urge you to come out from behind that safe wall of deceit, where you can pretend to be a concerned Israeli patriot without getting your hands dirty or your hair mussed.

Go back to Israel and join the struggle there. Leave us to our own work, which is to continue to secure the blessings of freedom and liberty for this nation. I wish you and Israel well, but to the extent that you would see Israel's interests triumph over those of the United States I tell you that you are NOT welcome here, sir.

Good day to you.

[DJ MacWoW]

Funny how they don't seem to have any trouble finding enough "men" to shoot the women who dare leave their houses, or to hijack airplanes full of women and children, isn't it.

Guess you missed the news story about most of the hijackers being Saudi and Egyptian. Bin Laden is a Saudi prince, not an Afghan. And I'll ignore the childish insult because it's unworthy of you. I understand your passion over the recent tragedy.