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I Urge An End To Calls For Retaliation Against "Islam"
Self | September 11, 2001 | Self

Posted on 09/11/2001 4:07:58 PM PDT by Illbay

Just above the text box into which I'm typing, it says, and I quote, "NO racist or violence posts."

Ladies and Gentlemen, FReepers of every race, CREED and color, I urge an immediate moratorium on the nauseatingly bigoted comments directed against "Islam," or "Muslims," or any negative reference to anyone strictly because of his or her religion. FR is no place for this trash, and I'd like to publicly call on the Esteemed Moderators to hunt down and erase all such tripe from FR.


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To: bkwells
Why is it OK for the Muslims, Arabs, Palestinians, etc, to declare that all Jews are racists and should be erradicted, yet now that the world is pissed at Islam and Muslims, all of a sudden, stereotyping isn't accecpted?

If you'll go back and reread what I have written you'll note that I mention that stooping to the same level of hatred and bigotry as our enemies makes us no better than they in that respect.

Worse, there are some who will sink all the way down to the level of our enemies, doing violence to innocents whose only connection might be that they worship in a similar manner.

If your actions are all a REaction to your enemies, and in mirror image, then they control you.

181 posted on 09/16/2001 4:50:33 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: bootyist-monk
Waving the bloody shirt, are we?
182 posted on 09/16/2001 4:52:03 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Blade
Reducing concern over Islamic terrorists operating inside our borders to bigotry.

I think you know the difference. Don't insult our intelligence, please.

183 posted on 09/16/2001 4:52:57 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Publius6961
Racism can't be an issue, since Islam is practiced by animals of all races.

Q.E.D.

184 posted on 09/16/2001 4:54:08 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: grunt03
Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet...

Actually, that isn't true. Christianity is growing faster. My own Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, is growing at a MUCH faster rate than Islam.

... much of that growth stimulated at the business end of a gun barrel.

Again, no. The growth mainly stems from the high rate of population growth of many of those countries with large or total Islamic populations such as Pakistan, Malaysia and the Phillipines.

185 posted on 09/16/2001 4:57:04 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: cicero's_son
But do not kid yourself about the nature of our enemy. We are not fighting an isolated band of outlaws. We cannot ensure our safety by treating this as a police operation.

If you'll read some of my comments on other threads you'll know where I'm coming from on this. I call for invasion and occupation of all those nations on our "terrorism sponsor list."

All you say is correct, but I have neighbors and acquaintances who are Muslim, and they are not the enemy. In fact, many of them, particularly my Iranian friends, are here because they lost everything and had to flee for their lives when the radical fundamentalist Islamic revolution went down.

But they didn't change their religion because of the actions of fanatic extremists.

I wonder if anyone has stopped to think how bad things would be if radical Christian extremists ever got hold of enough recruits and arms? I doubt there'd be a whole lot of difference in the outcome.

186 posted on 09/16/2001 5:00:53 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: LarryLied
I think extremists in any cause, political or religious, Christian or Islamic, are dangerous.
187 posted on 09/16/2001 5:02:33 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Storm Orphan
Then explain this.
188 posted on 09/16/2001 5:03:40 AM PDT by KDD
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To: Blade
Which is why I feel sorry for fools like this guy Illbay. 5000 dead and an unknown number of Islamic sleepers waiting to swing into action, and he's lecturing his countrymen on "racism."

We have thousands of CITIZENS of this nation who practice Islam. Tell me, in your opinion should they be targeted? Rounded up and put in camps? Have their citizenship stripped away?

Address the concerns that I have put forth, and don't go off on a tangent.

189 posted on 09/16/2001 5:04:55 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Jewry should not complain if its anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of anti-Semitism.

Sound familiar? German Propoganda in WW2

190 posted on 09/16/2001 5:05:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: duckln
Billions of people hating us is a minority? Please, get real!

I suggest you get real. There are 1.2 Billion Muslims in the world approximately.

They don't all hate us. In fact, I suggest that less than 1% actually "hate us." You are hearing from the vocal minority. They are the enemy, and they must be put down.

But your attitude is no better than theirs. They condemn all of the U.S., all its citizens, for what they perceive as "injustice" by our government. They want us all killed as a result.

Explain, please, how you are better than they.

191 posted on 09/16/2001 5:07:44 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Howlin
I say that any Muslim who does NOT denounce these terrorists ARE harboring them.

And I back that up 110%.

192 posted on 09/16/2001 5:10:26 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: cicero's_son
Will people like Illbay be singing the same tune when someone detonates the Islamic bomb in New York, LA, or Washington?

First, I fully believe that we are going to have more terrorists acts from these animals. I think the first day that we begin to strike back, we may see it. If our law enforcement and homeland defense forces are not able to locate and eradicate these people, it may be very, very bad.

That doesn't change one word of what I said. There are CITIZENS within our borders who practice Islam as a faith. The vast majority are guilty of nothing, no more than you are.

193 posted on 09/16/2001 5:11:20 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Jorge
They HAVE condemned it. It's just that no one is really listening. They're too busy calling for blood.
194 posted on 09/16/2001 5:12:04 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: hope
They have denounced them. You just haven't been paying attention.
195 posted on 09/16/2001 5:13:26 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Blade
This is off-topic a bit but I agree that it would be better if, in concert with other military actions, Israel is given the green light to destroy the Palestine Authority in their midst.

But that has nothing to do with my call to end the hatred against "Islam" in general.

196 posted on 09/16/2001 5:14:54 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: cicero's_son
Do you honestly believe that the majority in the Islamic world feels any shame, remorse, or compassion regarding these attacks?

Actually, I believe that the great majority of Islam has no connection with any of this. Are you Protestant? Do you feel a need to "apologize" for the shameful attacks against innocent schoolchildren in Belfast last week?

Are you Catholic? Do you feel the need to apologize for the IRA?

We need some perspective here.

197 posted on 09/16/2001 5:16:47 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
The Stormfront crowd has temporarily put aside their war against "the Jew and his Negro muscle" in favor of the "Muslim Menace". After this is all over, they will point out how "The Jew, using rap to incite the Negro" have killed more people than the "ragheads" . We are being played like a fiddle by the racists. I'm surprised we haven't heard Islam called "a gutter religion that must be eliminated before it destroys us".

People wonder how Hitler did it. You don't need a fortune teller to see it now. I went back and read some of the Nazi propoganda in the 1930's and it sounds eerily familiar.

198 posted on 09/16/2001 5:17:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: hope
That's because you don't understand the distinction between Judaism and the State of Israel.
199 posted on 09/16/2001 5:17:39 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: ET(end tyranny)
How in the world is Illbay supposed to know that?

My point exactly. If such a fatwa had been issued, we would all know it. None of us have heard a hint of such things. Which suggests it doesn't exist. And if it doesn't exist, what does that say about islam's view of the terrorists? Hmm?

200 posted on 09/16/2001 5:18:28 AM PDT by neutrino (neutrino)
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