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Ala. chief justice denies request for atheist monument near display to Ten Commandments
AP ^ | 9/07/01

Posted on 09/07/2001 7:49:14 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:36:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- State Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore has denied a request from an atheists group to put a statue of the organization's symbol in the lobby of the state judicial building.

American Atheists Inc. is the latest group to try to place a statue in the building since Moore had a monument to the Ten Commandments quietly moved into the building in August.


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1 posted on 09/07/2001 7:49:14 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- State Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore has denied a request from an atheists group to put a statue of the organization's symbol in the lobby of the state judicial building.

SCREEECH!!! First Amendment!!! Uhhhh, separation of church and state!!! Yeah! Ummmmm - endorsement of religion! Yeah, that's it! (and the hysterics will continue ad naseum).

2 posted on 09/07/2001 7:53:14 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: kattracks
Strange that the article did not mention what the statue of the atheists' symbol would look like. Are we supposed to guess? Is it animal, vegetable or mineral? If I guessed "Phallic", would I win?
3 posted on 09/07/2001 8:25:43 PM PDT by wife-mom
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To: wife-mom
I think the symbol is a hand with the middle finger extended.
4 posted on 09/07/2001 8:31:48 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: wife-mom
If it looked just like the Washington Monument, would you blame it on phallocentrism?
5 posted on 09/07/2001 8:33:41 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
What about Madeline Murray O'Hare's dismembered rotting corpse?
6 posted on 09/08/2001 12:19:46 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: kattracks
This is not the whole story.

Rep. Alvin Holmes (D), attempted to place a placard or something similiar next to the Ten Commandments display. The display contained the words of one of MLK's speeches, "I have a dream", I think it was. I'm not a student of MLK, therefore I don't recognize the text.

In any event, the display was poorly constructed, it appeared to be a poster board of grade school quality and even in the words of Mr. Holmes, was a "temporary" monument.

Moore did not meet with the delegation that was attempting to place it and entry to the judicial building was prevented by the capitol police.

There was a slight backlash against Holmes after he is alleged to have stated to the effect that King's words were given by God, therefore they had attained the same level as the word of God, or some such crap. I guess that MLK is now equated with Moses, at least in the mind of Rep. Alvin Holmes (D).

As a result of that incident, there are now many groups that are attempting to get their particular manifesto, credo, or wacked out "memorial" placed next to Moores Ten Commandment display.

Holmes has not given up and will most certainly use the situation to further his own political goals, whatever they may be.

In fairness, it should be made known that Moore did sneak the Ten Commandment display into the building in the "dead of night", so to speak. However, legally speaking, Moore is the "custodian" of the building, and as such, has only himself to answer to as far as what is or is not displayed in the building.

His actions are simply a continuation of the platform that got him elected to the position of Chief Justice, so he is not really breaking new ground here.

The issue is particularly emotional on a local level. I just happened to be in Montgomery on the day the incident occurred and did not realize why the capitol grounds were in such a turmoil. The press was everywhere and I initially attributed it to the fact that it was the first day of a special legislative session.

But if anyone knows anything about the Alabama Legislature, then one knows that bunch of bozos won't accomplish anything, anyway. When one finds media attention given to the Alabama Legislature, it is usually because someone has peed in a jug behind the podium, or one of them has been found to have carried a several million dollar check around in his pocket while attempting to influence a municipality to purchase land from one his friends at an inflated price, using public funds in the form of the check.

Be that as it may, I suspect that Chief Justice Moore will prevail in his attempts to display the Ten Commandments in the rotunda of the Judicial Building, to the exclusion of all the wacko nut job silliness that has attempted to thus far have them removed and replaced with their particular cause.

I think the Unabomber has gotten in line to have his manifesto placed in the building, also. Rumor has it that PETA is attemping to put a non-meat meat loaf recipe on the wall, too.

Will it ever end?

7 posted on 09/08/2001 6:02:18 AM PDT by OldSmaj
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"Will it ever end?" NOPE!
8 posted on 09/08/2001 6:07:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: kattracks
The atheists have already got a monument.They believe in nothing , therefore nothingness is the perfect monument.

Dang fool atheists.

9 posted on 09/08/2001 9:06:05 AM PDT by Church Lady
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The atheists have already got a monument.They believe in nothing , therefore nothingness is the perfect monument.

Dang fool atheists.

Yeah, what would the monument say:"We believe there is no God". Sounds like one of the most profoundly metaphysical statements I ever heard.

10 posted on 09/08/2001 9:41:08 AM PDT by Lent
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To: ppaul
"What about Madeline Murray O'Hare's dismembered rotting corpse?"

Christian love in action.

12 posted on 09/08/2001 12:08:22 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: kattracks
Awesome!!!
13 posted on 09/08/2001 12:31:07 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: Church Lady
The atheists have already got a monument.They believe in nothing , therefore nothingness is the perfect monument.

I can not figure out what the point is in having an atheist organization.

If an individual does not believe in something, be it God, that the Earth is round, the Loch Ness Monster or the Easter Bunny, why spend precious time arguing with believers over something that supposedly does not exist? Why not go to the beach, read a good book, donate time to charity, do some good or have some fun.

The only reason that I can come up with is that these people enjoy the 15 minutes of fame that they get with these pranks.

14 posted on 09/08/2001 12:49:55 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: blam
As long as we have good Justices like Justice Moore, the good fight will never end. He's a GREAT American!
15 posted on 09/08/2001 6:23:17 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Polybius
If an individual does not believe in something, be it God, that the Earth is round, the Loch Ness Monster or the Easter Bunny, why spend precious time arguing with believers over something that supposedly does not exist?

I think I'll let the Bible speak for its self on that point

Psa 14:1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God...

How could atheist actions,before mentioned by us, not be considered foolish?

16 posted on 09/08/2001 9:09:15 PM PDT by Church Lady
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To: kattracks
This is no surprise, Moore is just another theocrat disguisied as a Republican. Im glad the buddhist, atheist, wiccan, and other non christian citizens of Alabama will be happy have a case heard in his courtroom. If we are going to allow religious symbols in courtrooms then we should have copies of the koran and torah posted there as well.
17 posted on 09/08/2001 9:14:13 PM PDT by All-American Medic
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To: All-American Medic kattracks
If we are going to allow religious symbols in courtrooms then we should have copies of the koran and torah posted there as well.

Why? What the hell for?

18 posted on 09/08/2001 11:41:19 PM PDT by ppaul
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"If we are going to allow religious symbols in courtrooms then we should have copies of the koran and torah posted there as well. Why? What the hell for? Because they contain the moral guidelines of the jewish and muslim faiths, if you are going to place christian writings on the wall, then you must include other religions as well. Despite what you believe, we are no longer just a "christian or judeo-christian" nation. Dont put any religious writings on a public wall, inside a courtroom.
19 posted on 09/10/2001 11:17:35 PM PDT by All-American Medic
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To: All-American Medic
.....if you are going to place christian writings on the wall.....

Ahem, All American. Didn't Moses bring the Ten Commandments down from the holy mountain after they were inscribed in stone tablets by the hand of God? Don't you think you oughta apologize to all Jewish FReepers for calling them "Christian" writings?

20 posted on 09/11/2001 2:11:39 AM PDT by ppaul
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