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1 posted on 09/07/2001 11:24:12 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: Xenalyte
I'd vote for Bonfire of the Vanities or Confederacy of Dunces. By the way Xena (I just like saying that), have you read Toole's other book?
37 posted on 09/07/2001 12:55:51 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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William Faulkner's Intruder in the Dust is about as American as it gets, though it is more specifically a 1930s novel from the Jim Crow south. Excellent novel, BTW.
38 posted on 09/07/2001 12:56:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - HSThompson.
40 posted on 09/07/2001 12:57:40 PM PDT by Dakmar
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According to sales figures, the "great American novel" is Peyton Place, by Grace Metalious, published in 1957.
46 posted on 09/07/2001 1:03:50 PM PDT by Publius
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I nominate From Here To Eternity by James Jones.

Also some novels that tell what America is/was about at that time -

Gone With The Wind - tells the feelings of the south and the cause for some of its bitterness. The south lost the war but instead of being left alone to rebuild, carpetbaggers from the north came down and made life miserable for everyone. By the time they left, enough bitterness was stoked to keep the south backwards for generations.

The Grapes of Wrath - effectively tells the story of the Dustbowl migrant workers. Shows native Californians for what they are - not enlightened souls but frightened elitists. Also shows the ugly side of America - Americans turning on Americans. People who never gave a thought about how blacks were treated, if they survived the dustbowl and migration and humilation, now came away of what it was like to be treated inhumanely.

In Cold Blood - I think this crime novel showed America that we have monsters roaming the country - the first warning that we have serial killers in the nation.

47 posted on 09/07/2001 1:04:42 PM PDT by 7thson
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Haven't read it but The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen, which was just published, is getting rave reviews.
52 posted on 09/07/2001 1:11:58 PM PDT by aculeus
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"Player Piano" by Kurt Vonnegut
57 posted on 09/07/2001 1:19:52 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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I will go with Huck Finn, followed by The Great Gatsby, In Cold Blood, Lonesome Dove.
59 posted on 09/07/2001 1:26:40 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty ((poster formerly known as dorseyucla))
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For people now in their forties: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Also, The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test.
62 posted on 09/07/2001 1:33:46 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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Hi:

How many GANs were there? I can't limit this to only one. It is impossible. But this was a delightful excercize for myself anyway.

Overall though, Samuel Clemens ranks highest I suppose. I personally enjoy his more political works more now. Huck.

To contribute to other consideration if I may, I like to break things down by decades so to speak, reflect on them, and then use such in rhetoric and writing. Of course, that might be the "decade" where I read the book as opposed to that in which it was published. For example:

Jim Harrison's "Legends of the Fall" is my favorite book of the last two decades of the 20th Century. It affected film as well by the making of the movie of the title name and also that of "Revenge" with Kevin Costner and Anthony Quinn(Madeleine Stowe as well).

Within this book then, the Novella "Revenge" is my choice. While at the same time, there are author's I read in time proximity along with Harrison: Thomas McGuane for one, McMurtry and Lonesome Dove was important. Elmer Kelton for another. In particular, Kelton wrote Great stories all related to the West(Texas) and he hasn't received the notice of McMurtry for example...undeservedly in my humble opinion. Here are 2 I recommend: The Time it Never Rained, The Good Old Boys. These books along with another 60's favorite comprise the spirit of independence, my sage brush rebellion attitude and longing for the open spaces, mountains and streams I guess: The Brave Cowboy by Edward Abbey and it's two sequels.

If I go back to the 70's and 60's however, my choices change radically to books published well before those decades. In the 70's it was Hemingway. Hard for me to choose which. "For Whom the Bell Tolls", "Islands in the Stream" or Perhaps "To Have and Have Not". In the 60's it was Ayn Rand: "Atlas Shrugged". Mom had me read those when I was 10 or so around 1960--but also in this decade I read thoroughly Lee's Lt.s, "None Dare Call It (Conspiracy or Treason)" I cannot recollect the publication dates--parental political influence). ALSO F-451, 1984 both were of import. Pat Frank's book "Tomorrow" was it? There was another for the 70s, "Love In the Ruins" By Walker Percy?

Huck was the book for me of the 50's. I believe I read the "Cain Mutiny" at this time as well, ie, late 50's. It remains a tremendous work. Or Jack London anything.

In the y2k decade, I certainly haven't read enough to push a button on one. Oddly enough, I have become enamored again with Rand. The Fountainhead is it thus far.

But that is just a way of looking at things. If I just had to pick 1, it would be Huck as being the most influential work in so many ways. For me personally, perhaps now in this decade I will return to Faulkner, and be 14 again so to speak. Here I might pick "A light in August" or "Wild Palms". I suppose I will Let EH go. After all, I just got back from playing McGuane and Hemingway in Key West, fly fishing the flats. It didn't work. I am still me....

Regards to you:

David Bell -- Dai --

"I could just remember how my father used to say that the reason for living was to get ready to stay dead a long time." From William Faulkner's "As I Lay Dying"(Character Addie Bundren).

Or something like, when it is all said and done, you die and they throw dirt in your face(Unknown source).

64 posted on 09/07/2001 1:38:40 PM PDT by daitex (dai@keepandbeararms.com)
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Gray's Landing, Francis Irby Gwaltney, or Time of the Panther, Wesley Ford Davis.
84 posted on 09/07/2001 3:31:56 PM PDT by Whilom
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Not necessarily "Great American Novels," but I heartily recommend the Travis McGee mystery series by John MacDonald. A thinking man's (and woman's) real man.
85 posted on 09/07/2001 3:53:31 PM PDT by bleudevil
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I can't really pick the "Great American Novel," but I would nominate John Barth as the greatest living American novelist. Start out with "The Floating Opera."
86 posted on 09/07/2001 3:54:48 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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Modern Library conducted a survery for the 100 best novels of the century. Their board members picked the following novels (not all American) as their top choices in the list of 100....ULYSSES, James Joyce....THE GREAT GATSBY, F. Scott FitzGerald....A PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN, James Joyce....BRAVE NEW WORLD, Aldous Huxley.....THE SOUND AND THE FURY, William Faulkner.....CATCH-22, Joseph Heller.

Modern Library's readers picked the following:....ATLAS SHRUGGED, Ayn Rand....THE FOUNTAINHEAD, Ayn Rand....BATTLEFIELD EARTH, L. Ron Hubbard....LORD OF THE RINGS, J.R.R.Tolkien.....TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, Harper Lee....ANTHEM, Ayn Rand.

Quite a bit of difference between the tastes of the eggheads and the bourgeois!

Leni

87 posted on 09/07/2001 3:56:39 PM PDT by MinuteGal (KeepYourPowderDry)
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Another American Novel I love very much is "Grapes Of Wrath". You see, I've been oppressed by an oppressive government (now that's redundant(sp?) isn't it?) I thought your Xena pictures were very pretty. I'm gonna go and rename all the younger children everywhere Tom Joady-joad, if I can.

...Well, maybe not, do you like Woody Guthrie? I do.

93 posted on 09/07/2001 5:39:40 PM PDT by Dakmar
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two choices spring immediately to mind. 1. for a pure GAN, i nominate john irving's "a prayer for owen meany", one of the great, pure American novels of the 2nd half of the 20th century. 2. from a strictly freeper point of view, and without regard to one of the poster's requirements that any nominee take place in America, i would nominate "the moon is a harsh mistress" by robert a. heinlein--essentially a retelling of the American Revolution in the form of a science fiction novel set on the moon. highly recommended.
94 posted on 09/07/2001 7:29:17 PM PDT by jays911
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I don't think we think much in terms of novels nowadays. Even major novelists think the form is dying. For better or for worse -- well, for worse -- movies have replaced the novel.

After seeing "Fight Club," I did read the book. It examines some really major themes. But I do think the film was better. The film realized what Pahlanik only sketched out.

Another important novelist is Don DeLillo. I wanted to read "White Noise," but after hearing people describe and retell it at such length and after trying to listen to another of his novels on audiobook, decided not to bother. His theme in "White Noise" is precisely how the craziness of reality defeats attempts to explain or fix its meaning in words.

If you are looking for a great post-modern novelist, DeLillo is perhaps you best bet, because he hasn't wholly lost touch with the world outside. I look forward to reading or listening to his "Libra" on the Kennedy assassination, though after trying to read Norman Mailer's and James Ellroy's stupifying works on the same subject, I suspect either writers will give up on Oswald or I will give up on reading.

Kurt Vonnegut may be another post-modern classic, though weighted much more towards popular fiction, than towards high art. Some rave about John Barth's "Sot-weed Factor" and other works, but I've not been tempted. Speaking purely as a non-reader, I wouldn't bother with Robert Coover either.

Reality does seem to defeat attempts to put it into words, especially since moving photographic or videographic images are so much more immediate. And literature does tend to be come obsolete quicker now than in the past centuries. Dip into Salinger, Mailer, James Jones, Cheever, O'Hara, Bellow from 50 years ago. That world is very much dead. Deader than Hemingway's or Dickens's world.

98 posted on 09/08/2001 7:45:16 AM PDT by x
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The two great themes of American art reflect the impact of its vast space (the "land") and the collective psyche of her people, usually exemplified by small towns, unique to this country.

Musicals which best illustrate these elements of our national identity include THE MUSIC MAN,which best reflects the psyche of our people (that can-do, midwestern spirit) and OKLAHOMA, which reflects the primal connection with the land.

As a single work of great American fiction, HUCK FINN captures both the land, the spirit of our many people, and our inherent spiritually (through the symbolism and importance of the river, our freshwater source of life). However, anything by Sinclair Lewis involving the town of Zenith or the collective works of Faulkner would rival the Twain as Great American "Novels".

104 posted on 09/10/2001 5:16:44 AM PDT by MHT
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I'm surprised by the number of votes for Bonfire of the Vanities, and I agree 100%. It is truly a 'novel', in the tradition of Thackeray, and it's truly great. It perfectly captured the time and place in which it was set, and captured something essential about us as a nation as well. Bonfire of the Vanities is the only GAN in the past 50 years. ( 'A man in full' is almost as good, but less believable.)
105 posted on 09/10/2001 5:25:55 AM PDT by babble-on
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I would have to say Catcher in the Rye.
107 posted on 09/09/2004 11:25:17 AM PDT by akorahil (<Insert witty tagline here>)
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