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Clinton's Allies in Bosnia - The 7th Mujahedeen Brigade
BalkanPeace ^ | 2001 | unkwn.

Posted on 09/07/2001 7:36:19 AM PDT by vooch

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1 posted on 09/07/2001 7:36:19 AM PDT by vooch
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To: Hoplite, Ranger, Bluester, DTA, Balkans, crazykatz
Some of Hoplite's buddies in action. Hoplite's Humanitarian Warriors supplied, funded, and promoted these paramilitary killers thereby smearing our country with their crimes.

The ICTY has determined that defacto command responsibility (ie supply, funding, and promotion) is enough evidence for proving guilt in the event of war crimes. It is only just that those Humanitarian Warriors who supported such paramilitaries as the 7th Mujahedeen face trial for their crimes. For more see USFM 27-10 chp. 6, para 366

could someone pluz post the photos which accompined the article they are illuminating.

2 posted on 09/07/2001 7:42:27 AM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
The Serbs declared a Jihad against the Muslims in Bosnia starting in April of '92. The Muj show up in June.

This whole cause and effect thing escapes you, doesn't it.

3 posted on 09/07/2001 9:36:46 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
hmmm....I'll take your post as implict assent that the Humanitarian Warriors are proud of their support of the 7th Mujahdeen and the corrupt poster boy.....Sarcibey.

as for cause and effect.....perhaps the Lisbon Agreement may ring a bell ?

4 posted on 09/07/2001 9:44:48 AM PDT by vooch
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To: vooch
Great, tell me how the Lisbon agreement forced people like Arkan to, against their will, rape, murder, plunder, and generally act like modern day vandals.

All the West's fault. Just keep repeating your mantra.

5 posted on 09/07/2001 9:54:33 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
>>>The Serbs declared a Jihad against the Muslims<<<<

Dear Holplite,

Oops, again those difficult foreign words.Here is the cheat sheet:

From Webster''s

Main Entry: ji·had
Pronunciation: ji-'häd, chiefly British -'had
Function: noun
Etymology: Arabic jihAd
Date: 1869
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief

If you haven;t heard, jihad is the term used to describe holy war against the infidels ( Christians, Jews, Hindus, Animists,and everybody else)

Your comments are perfect example what happens when zeal is not followed by basic education.

Get some courses at Community college. It is cheaper than veery expensive help.

start from here

or, if reading is too hard for you, here is crash course in pictures:

This photograph was seized from Saudi Arabian fighters captured in Crni Vrh near Teslic, Bosnia. A Muslim solder displays the severed head of Blagoje Blagojevic, a Serb from the village of Jasenovo near Teslic.

6 posted on 09/07/2001 11:31:40 AM PDT by DTA
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Wow! Thanks. Have a pic for yourself.

That's April '92, sparky. And those dead people are dead simply because they're Muslim, not for anything they have done.

Your comment is a perfect example of what happens when basic education comes face to face with such advanced concepts as irony.

2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning

7 posted on 09/07/2001 12:11:59 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: DTA, hoplite
Thanks for the photos

lez figgur this one out. Hoplite's allies are photo'd gleefully holding up heads of their beheaded victims. Hoplite's enemies are photo'd verfiying (albeit brutally) if the bad guys are still a threat.........

hmmmmmmm beheading vs. verification

and still through all that Hoplite refuses to condemn the 7th Mujahedeen which BTW fought a ferocious campaign against the loyalist Muslims under Fikret Abdic (who also happened to be the legally elected President of BiH)

8 posted on 09/07/2001 1:47:39 PM PDT by vooch
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To: Balkans, pericles
and still Hoppie fails to see the key issue here namely

The guys doing the beheading were supplied, funded, & promoted by Clinton et. al........therefore, somewhere, someplace our country is besmirched with the blood of those beheaded victims.

It was done with our tax dollars, by our elected officials.....Hoppie and therein lies the difference.

9 posted on 09/07/2001 1:51:46 PM PDT by vooch
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To: Hoplite
Hoplite, you are great source.

Quote from Canadian Ambassador to Yugoslavia, J. Bissett. who was there at the time:

In March 1992, each of the three leaders: Izetbegovic for the Muslims, Boban for the Croats, and Karadzic for the Serbs, signed the so-called Lisbon Agreement. Among diplomats in Belgrade there was general relief and for the first time a sense of hope for the future. Alas it was not to be.
Within days of the Lisbon Agreement, the United States Ambassador, Warren Zimmerman flew to Sarajevo and met with Izetbegovic. Upon finding that Izetbegovic was having second thoughts about the agreement he had signed in Lisbon, the Ambassador suggested that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. Izetbegovic then withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.
Within days the war had spread to Bosnia.
end of quote.

As you rightfully mentioned, pictures are from April 1992, AFTER Bosnian Muslims unconstitutionally declared independence of Bosnia. That happened after Lisbon agreement was torpedoed by Zimmerman and Izetbegovic. (pics appeared in TIME originally)

All innocent deaths are regretable and all criminals should be punished.

paramilitaries from the picture should be punished for war crime. Warren Zimmerman and Izetbegovic should be punished for CRIME AGAINST PEACE, like Nazi criminals in Nuremberg

Hoplite, you can change hair colour, you can change accent, but you can not change the facts.

Ugly facts come back to haunt you.Only communists and liberals disregard the facts as something irrelevant. And you are neither, aren't you?

10 posted on 09/07/2001 1:53:28 PM PDT by DTA
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To: vooch
Do you know for sure that those people are dead there? I always thought they looked like they were cringing.

If they are dead, how were they killed? Notice that the woman's white vest has no blood on it whatsoever - none on her hair or hands either. The other man doesn't show any stains on his sage-colored vest, nor does the man in the black leather jacket with the white socks show any evidence of violence.

If these people were killed, how were they killed. It looks too clean to have been done by shooting.

Those "soldiers" with the painted faces - has anyone identified them? This photo reminds me of the photo shoots that the West is doing these days of the Albanian "rebels" in Macedonia - they have that same "set-up" style.

11 posted on 09/07/2001 2:07:55 PM PDT by joan
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If you look at the head of the person lying closest to the two soldiers, you'll see what looks like a pool of blood. It could be the reflection of the brick on water, but I think it's blood.
12 posted on 09/07/2001 2:50:42 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: joan
I just love this picture because it always brings out the B.S. artists in full force.

Shame on you, Joan, we've been over this before.

13 posted on 09/07/2001 2:55:31 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: constitutiongirl
The whole pavement is wet; it looks like it had been raining that day. How do you explain that man's white collar?
14 posted on 09/07/2001 3:05:04 PM PDT by joan
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To: constitutiongirl
Also, do you know the names of any of those "soldiers" or people on the ground - you'd think with such wide circulation of the photo we'd have names and photos of them with their identities? How do you know those people on the ground are not Serbs anyway?

Those people do not even look like any photos of Serbs I've seen.

15 posted on 09/07/2001 3:11:21 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
I wasn't even making a guess at the identities of the people on the ground. I just said it looks like a pool of blood. My brother was shot in the head and bled out, face down and he didn't have any blood on the back of his head or the back of his shirt. It ran under the front of his body towards his feet. It looks like the two people closest to the 'kicking' soldier are cringing. Their fingers look 'fisted' and tight.
16 posted on 09/07/2001 3:29:02 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: joan
Also, Joan, I distrust 'photo-journalism' as much as I distrust print journalism. A photographer can put any 'slant' he wants onto a single photo. I'd like to see every single shot he took from the beginning to the end.
17 posted on 09/07/2001 3:37:59 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: constitutiongirl
"It looks like the two people closest to the 'kicking' soldier are cringing. Their fingers look 'fisted' and tight."

Yes, I agree, and the coloring of their ears, sides of their faces, and fingers looks like that of the living.

Do you know how long it takes the coloring to drain from someone's complexion after they've been killed? I mean, do they pale immediately, in several minutes, in hours...?

18 posted on 09/07/2001 3:40:30 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
I have no idea. Maybe a couple of doctors will find their way to this thread and let us know.
19 posted on 09/07/2001 4:02:12 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: constitutiongirl, Hoplite, vooch, joan
A kick in the head is a lot better I would say than no head at all. Those civilians suffered less at the hands of those uniformed men than Rodney King or Abner Loumia did at the hands of American police.

Besides, better to be safe than sorry and make sure those civilians have their faces down and hands exposed, they might be hiding a weapon that can be used when your back is turned. I find this photo that Hoplite likes to show not horrifying at all.

What I find horrifying is that Clinton turned the power of the USA into supplying the head cutting Islam Jihadists.

20 posted on 09/07/2001 4:04:48 PM PDT by Pericles
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