Posted on 09/07/2001 7:36:19 AM PDT by vooch
No, they didn't, did they.
Lisbon would have resulted in the partitioning of Bosnia into 3 ethnically based areas, and the Croats, Muslims, and Serbs were mixed up enough to make it an unworkable scheme, given what was transpiring next door.
The Lisbon plan, by the way, allotted 44% of Bosnia to the Serbs (in discontiguous lumps), yet in '92 they went and grabbed an extra 26% of the country.
Just to show that they were bargaining in good faith, I suppose.
Thanks for helping to illustrate post #13.
In 1993 Iran offered to provide 10,000 troops to help secure the safe areas of Srebrenica, Zepa, and Goradze.
Those troops were turned down.
I wonder why that was...
Back issues, of course.
Oh c'mon, you're full of sh#t on that one, Hoplite - who illegally seceded first? Was it the Serbs who decided to forcefully tear apart the country first? Of course, shame on those evil Serbs for not promptly destroying all their churches and cultural landmarks and meekly giving way to Mr Islamic Manifesto Izetbegovic. How dare they fight back, and - gasp - even get the upper hand. Surely they all deserve to have their heads chopped off by the noble mujadeen, right?
No Serb cleansing of Muslim areas of Bosnia, no Mujhadeen in Bosnia.
It's not that complicated at all.
Just think what could have been if Milosevic was actually interested in keeping Yugoslavia together instead of creating ethnically pure adjuncts in Croatia and Bosnia.
If the Serbs were interested in keeping Yugoslavia together, they weren't interested in having the Croat or Muslims in it, based on their actions in the RSK and RS.
Those poor guys in the picture weren't the only Serbs who lost their heads in the '90s.
As to the white stripes, you can be so forgetful at times, you know?
Am I the only one around here who remembers previous threads?
As to the white stripes, you can be so forgetful at times, you know?
Am I the only one around here who remembers previous threads or actually reads what has already been posted before sticking my oar in?
PS: Judging by the fighting qualities of the Iranian military (who pioneered the tactic of charging Iraqi machine gun nests with unarmed children) against the much smaller Iraqi army, I think that would have been 10,000 more notches on the Serbian military's belt.
Your logic escapes me.
Elucidate.
Not that you'll need help or anything.
Hoplite,I admire your "simplistic" view of history!If Soviets didn`t invade Afganistan we wouldn`t have Taliban and Mujahedins in Bosnia!!!!!
The fact that Russians introduced civic society,with schools for everybody,medicare,and our(Christian) sistem into Afganistan is unknown to you!It would be nice if you could,as a great researcher,find a monumental TV series "Cold War"!Maybe,just maybe,than,you would learn some things!
Your comment about "Serbs in April-Mujahedins in June" is so sad and laughable that doesn`t deserve an answer!
Another pearl of wisdom is "Iranian offer of 10 000 soldiers refused"!Well,Hopie,we(US) can`t so blatantly introduce Iran into the hearth of Europe!Volontiers are more convinient!
You see,Hopie,(you don`t mind if I call you Hopie,do you?)some of us have an (dis)advantage of living previously in Yugoslavia!You,I assume,don`t!So,some of us knew the atmosphere,bar talks,TV programs,newspapers,participated actively in some events!And expirienced war!
You didn`t!
You ,Hopie,don`t know a thing about Yugoslavia,former or present!And,not only about Yuigoslavia!
It is a pity that time machine is impossible,because I would like to invite you (and not only you) on a trip in `89!So that you can listen fascist rant of Tudjman`s followers in my birth town of Mostar!"We didn`t kill enough of you,Serbian dogs!This time we`ll finish the job!" "Ante(Pavelich) rise !" "Serbs on willows! Dogs(Serbs) go over Drina!"Or that you can see letter U (for Ustashe) written everywhere!
Or,I would take you on the other side of town to hear Muslims saying"You and Croats were always raya(serfs) and we were always beys(masters)!When we reach 50,0001% of Bosnian population we (Muslims) will fuck your mother!"Nice,isn`t it?
Or,I would give you a Motorola in 91 to listen the conversation between Croat and Serbian policemen in Krajina in which a Croat(former colleague and "friend" of thhe Serb) is describing what he and his palls will do to the Serbs and someones wife and children in particular!I would like you to see the tears of a man who didn`t cry when I amputated his foot but cried at the hatred and betrayal of a man who he considered to be a family friend!And,I would like you to hear a Muslim guy from Bihach,joining in the converstaion and promising that "next year (92) will be a play-off in Bosnia and that both Chedo(Chetnik-Serb) and Ujo(Ustasha-Croat)will have their throaths slitt!Alahu Akbar!"
I would really like to introduce you to your friends, nice Croats and innocent Muslims,not to mention your beloved KLA!It would be a true memorable expirience!
But,for what purpose?People like you don`t learn!
Did you make up the part about the Tigers taking fire from the house those people were pulled from or did someone else? Also, there were no lists - this was a common ploy to scare Serb residents into distrusting all of thier Muslim neighbors, playing off of the fears of a repeat of the 1940's.
Not surprised you fell for it. You seem to be a perfect example of the ignorant puke who's head was filled with B.S. in order to get you to hate people who haven't done a damn thing against you or your 'kind' in their entire lives.
At least you seem to have some scruples against killing innocents, at least until someone tells you they took fire from where they were pulled from.
It's a start, I suppose.
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