Posted on 09/06/2001 12:40:40 PM PDT by madrussian
By RON FOURNIER, AP White House Correspondent
WASHINGTON (AP) - Mexican President Vicente Fox (news - web sites), the first state visitor of the Bush presidency, challenged the United States on Wednesday to strike an agreement on immigration by year's end. President Bush (news - web sites) said ``there is no more important relationship'' than with Mexico but did not embrace Fox's ambitious deadline.
The public challenge stunned U.S. officials who have been trying to lower expectations for a deal on the complex and politically risky issue that could legalize millions of undocumented Mexicans. Even some Mexican officials said they had no notice that Fox would push for quick action.
The two-day state visit, an important political event to both Bush and Fox, began promptly at 9:30 a.m. EDT when a military band struck up a Sousa march and the two presidents strolled shoulder to shoulder onto the White House back lawn. Military honor guards stood stone-faced as their battle ribbons, jostled atop flag poles by a cool wind, whipped at their faces.
Bush, hoping to court Hispanic voters for his 2004 re-election bid, said Wednesday's formal welcoming ceremony, one-on-one Oval Office session, rare joint Cabinet meeting and state dinner - along with his and Fox's joint trip Thursday to Ohio - amounted to a ``recognition that the United States has no more important relationship in the world.''
With all the pageantry a president can muster, Bush welcomed Fox to what he called the ``Casa Blanca'' and said, ``We understand that our two nations must work together in a spirit of respect and common purpose to seize opportunities and tackle challenges on the issues that affect the lives of our citizens, including migration, the environment, drugs, crime, corruption and education.''
That included just a glancing reference to the issue that dominates U.S.-Mexican relations: What should be done with the 3 million or so illegal Mexican immigrants who want legal status in America, and millions more in Mexico who want to cross the 2,000-mile border? The president wants an undetermined number of illegal immigrants to become legal.
A joint statement being released Thursday as Bush and Fox tour a Hispanic community center in Toledo, Ohio, commits the pair to forging a ``realistic approach to migration'' that respects ``the human dignity of all migrants, regardless of their (legal) status.''
With a dozen anti-immigration protesters outside the White House gates, Bush and first lady Laura Bush threw Fox an intimate state dinner with an extraordinary finale of fireworks on the South Lawn.
Raising a glass of 7-Up, the teetotaling Bush toasted Fox ``friend to friend, partner to partner, neighbor to neighbor.'' Fox returned the compliment, calling Bush ``Jorge'' and someone he trusts to take action on the immigration problem.
Bush's trip to Mexico in February raised hopes in both countries that an agreement would come quickly, but the leaders have sounded more cautious in recent weeks as congressional conservatives raised objections.
On the eve of their meetings, Bush said the complexity of the issue bars a quick deal and acknowledged that he has ``a lot more selling to do'' in Congress. Fox said Sunday it would take four to six years to complete a comprehensive U.S.-Mexican immigration overhaul.
Flanked by Bush in front of the Truman Balcony, Fox seemed to set a more aggressive timetable.
``We must and we can reach an agreement on migration before the end of this very year which will allow us, before the end of our respective terms, to make sure that there are no Mexicans who have not entered this country legally in the United States and that those Mexicans who have come into the country do so with the proper documents,'' said Fox. His term ends in 2006.
Fox appeared to be calling for an agreement that would be ready for consideration by the respective legislatures of the two countries before the end of the year. But U.S. officials have said that details such as timetables and the numbers of Mexicans who would be eligible have not yet been broached.
Fox believes Mexicans in the United States are not being treated fairly. He says U.S laws should be amended so that migrants receive health, education and labor rights and can work without fear of deportation.
Several administration officials said afterward they would have preferred to avoid the added pressure of a public deadline. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it is impossible to predict whether a comprehensive agreement can be reached this year, given the unease in Congress and fluidity of the talks.
Bush, asked whether he thought Fox's timetable was too ambitious, pretended not to understand the question and joked in Spanish, ``I can't hear.''
His national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), said it would be nice to reach an agreement by year's end, but cautioned, ``The president shares the desire to do it quickly, but to get it right.'' Bush and Fox will release broad outlines of their immigration goals while touring a Hispanic community center in Toledo on Thursday.
Prodding Bush, House Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said he hopes to pass a bill during Fox's visit that would extend by a year the deadline for illegal immigrants to apply for visas.
Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., chairman of the congressional immigration reform caucus, said the prospects are not good for congressional approval of legislation that would legalize undocumented Mexican aliens.
People should not be rewarded who ``forget about American law, sneak into the country and avoid detection,'' he said.
Bush has acknowledged such concerns, but nonetheless says it would be in the nation's interest to match hardworking Mexicans with American employers.
Fox's remarks reflected the political pressures he faces at home to strike an agreement with Bush. He hopes to quiet critics in Mexico who say he promised much during his landmark election campaign and has delivered little.
Bush's first name is Jorge? Oh I get it. El Presidente Jorge Arbusto. Muy buen. Ay-ay-ay.
Kindly be logical or remove yourself from the debate.
Oh. Extraordinarily funny.
Do you mean Monterey, California or Monterrey, Baja Mexico? (I assume you mean Monterrey, because there is no VW factory here in Monterey...)
According to some Bushies, he likes to let somebody else play a bad cop and badger him constantly. And he reluctantly agrees to a controversial policy, even though that is what he wanted all along. Obviously, he is playing that scenario here. Fox is a bad cop badgering Bush. Bush will be a good cop who will agree to it eventually. And sheeple get snookered. Anything for money !
That is a very astute observation, but unfortunately, it is one which will be lost on many of those here who cannot differentiate between loyality to the GOP and loyalty to their country.
On Rush today, a caller called in trying to make these points, but he did not keep his cool, and allowed Rush to "roll" him; Rush pretended to agree with him and pretended not to know what Bush's true opinions on immigration are. Well, Rush is not stupid. He knows what Bush is up to. But he knows he cannot admit it publicly, so he plays dumb. Much like Bush is playing dumb.
They are illegals and they are working illegally in the US. Providing a free transportation to the border and $200 would be an ideal solution. Legalizing them will only exacerbate the problem of illegal immigration and will signal that America gives in to brute force.
BTW madrussion, I guess now that you got in, you don't want anyone else to be able to get in, is that it?
Is the difference between legal and illegal immigration such a difficult concept?
I live in Arizona where we have one of the worst problems with illegals, I would love it if they would come up with a guest worker arrangement. I'm even for issuing drivers licenses marked "Guest Worker" and making sure that all laws are adhered to. It would even cut down on the illegal voting because if you were caught, you'd have your work permit revoked and never be able to one on issued again. It would solve a lot of problems.
How about adhering to the very basic law of not coming to a country illegally?
I heartily invite you to bite yerself.
And DON'T touch my hair!!! LOL!!!
The entire goal of any successful democratic enterprise is the spreading of the wealth, the formation of a solid class of people who through HARD WORK reap benefits that elevate them upwards, towards greater riches. That is what DRIVES us all to work, basically. I don't ANYONE works to get poorer or to remain poor.
You have a deep dislike of illegal immigrants 'sneaking' into our country. Heck-NO ONE LIKES THAT. But sometimes you must go beyond that to the reasons for this migration, and they are EVIDENT. That is why, as a nation, we need to ENCOURAGE the growth and development of MEXICO while we continue to allow those who search for work (what in the heck is WRONG with THAT?) to find it here, as LONG as we have the jobs. AND RIGHT NOW WE DO! Some sort of registration would be terrific!
Maybe you ought to go work for the Border Patrol. They'll pay you to do what you really love. You might even get to point a gun at a Mexican. Wouldn't that be fun?
I see. The difference is WHO you tell the person to bite. ;^)
KIDDING! KIDDING! I know what the real concerns are. ;^)
Thanks for bumping the thread. Muchos gracias, senor.
Strangely absent from your post is the word "nazi". Have you been taking lessons from Jesse Jackson, or are you a natural?
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