Petition - Ten Commandments Protection Act

Faith and Action Ministries ^ | September 6, 2001 | Rob Schenck-Ten Commandments Project

[DaveyB]

Indulge me this paraphrase.

The fool[ish] government has said in their heart there is no God. They are corrupt their way are vile there is no one who does good. Ps 53:1

It is clear, the ACLU wants a nation of fools.

[freeeee]

Thank you.

[Storm Orphan]

I believe it is a sin to rewrite Scripture.

Government should have nothing to do with religion. It exists to protect individual rights, not
to promote one religion over another.

[DaveyB]

I'm just glad you believe that there is sin. That of course infers that there is a God who created laws (commandments)and who judges.

[Storm Orphan]

It's a sin within your religion.

I acknowledge no gods.

[DaveyB]

SO you presume to be my judge. I decline -- position already filled.

[Storm Orphan]

Fair enough. Don't presume to be my judge by making government give its imprimateur to your religion.

[ConservativeNJdad]

But not on public property or on the taxpayers' dime.

Pardon me, but shouldn't that decision be made by the taxpayers, or do you make important decisions for everyone?

[ContemptofCourt]

Ouch....

[Storm Orphan]

I believe the First amendment trumps any notions of absolute democracy.

[Mr. Vega]

The fool[ish] government has said in their heart there is no God. They are corrupt their way are vile there is no one who does good. Ps 53:1

I think it is foolish to believe that the heart says things, or that thinking occurs there.

[ConservativeNJdad]

I believe the First amendment trumps any notions of absolute democracy.

So do I, which is why the people of Elkhart, Indiana, should decide whether the Ten Commandments can be displayed in Elkhart, Indiana. There is nothing in the US Constitution that says otherwise.

[Storm Orphan]

The 14th Amendment says otherwise, as does the First.

[ConservativeNJdad]

The 14th Amendment says otherwise, as does the First.

Where? I've read them many times, but I can't find what you claim is there.

[Storm Orphan]

The right to be free of government establishing religion (First Amendment) is
extended to all U.S. citizens so that neither federal, state or local government may
do so (14th Amendment).

[pubmom]

Dictionary- Concordance: heart- the center of a person's life, including the mind, the will and the emotions.

[anniegetyourgun]

Thanks for the ping. I've really got to get my youngest back to D.C. with me soon - before they sandblast all the scripture off the federal buildings and monuments.

Hey, come to think of it, there seem to be many God-haters right here on FR who would rent the blasters themselves to eliminate our U.S. history from those buildings!

[freeeee]

God-haters

Do you think that not wanting the government involved in religion automatically means that one despises God?

If so, I'll have to inform a lot of religious people I know that they hate God. Boy, won't they be surprised.

[ConservativeNJdad]

The right to be free of government establishing religion (First Amendment) is extended to all U.S. citizens so that neither federal, state or local government may do so (14th Amendment).

Sounds good, but that's not what these amendments say. The first amendment doesn't say "there shall be no law...", it says "Congress shall make no law...". And the 14th extends this restriction to the states. Any claim that the 14th amendment prevents municipalities from doing anything is not misinterpretation, it is a falsehood.

[ConservativeNJdad]

The right to be free of government establishing religion (First Amendment) is extended to all U.S. citizens so that neither federal, state or local government may do so (14th Amendment).

Sounds good, but that's not what these amendments say. The first amendment doesn't say "there shall be no law...", it says "Congress shall make no law...". And the 14th extends this restriction to the states. Any claim that the 14th amendment prevents municipalities from doing anything is not misinterpretation, it is a falsehood.