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Posted on 06/30/2026 4:29:38 AM PDT by texas booster
Nearly 250 years ago, the United States tried negotiating with Islamic pirate states to stop the capture of American ships and the enslavement of Americans. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams all learned the painful lesson that the negotiations were a trap.
Treaties would be signed, agreements would be reached and would soon be broken because Muslims could freely lie to ‘infidels’ and had a religious obligation to wage war on them.
“The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Mahomet is the prophet of God,” Adams summed it up. “The command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.”
This isn’t ancient history, it’s current events as the United States once again conducts futile negotiations with an Islamic pirate and terrorist state to stop its attacks on international shipping.
Defenders of the negotiations have taken to hailing a deal with Iran as smart diplomacy while contending that Iran’s regime is moderate and critics of appeasing Jihadists are ‘warmongers’.
But if negotiating with Islamic terrorists is such a good idea, what is its track record?
The Carter administration negotiated the Algiers Accord with Iran to release the hostages. And having seen the success of taking hostages, Iran had Hezbollah and other Shiite Islamic front groups start taking hostages, torturing and killing them, and carrying out terrorist attacks.
That was our reward for negotiating a deal with Iran back then. It was our reward for negotiating a deal with Iran under Obama. And it’ll be our reward for negotiating a deal with Iran now.
Rewarding Iran for its terrorism just led to more terrorism. That’s happening all over again.
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Should we have seen this coming?
In its first term, the Trump administration also negotiated a deal through Qatar with Islamic terrorists. The Taliban quickly began violating the agreement and set out to seize control. While the Afghanistan withdrawal would probably not have been as disastrous under the Trump administration as it was under Biden, the basic outcome would have ended up the same.
In its second term, the Trump administration allowed the same people responsible for the Iran deal, Steven Witkoff and Jared Kushner, to negotiate a deal with Hamas that the terrorist group has repeatedly violated leading to smaller scale fighting and no actual progress. The Gaza ‘Board of Peace’ is set for a ‘reset’ summit in Cyprus after little to show for the last six months.
The Lebanon ceasefire has also been mostly fictional because Hezbollah has refused to stay behind the ceasefire lines (as it’s been doing for two generations) leading to more fighting, and to Iranian demands that the Trump administration provide political cover for Hezbollah attacks.
The fighting in Gaza is itself an outgrowth of the Clinton, Bush and Obama efforts to negotiate between Israel and various Islamic terrorist groups, most prominently the PLO, to create a ‘Palestinian’ terrorist state, but which only led to generations of escalating terrorist attacks.
Even a cursory history of our relationships with supposed Muslim allies like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan shows them seizing our assets, funding, harboring and planting Islamic terrorists in the United States and around the world while assuring us that they would never do such a thing.
The latest version of the Iran Deal is being negotiated through Qatar and Pakistan. Qatar had harbored 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed while Pakistan harbored Bin Laden.
The United States had been pleading with Pakistan to help with Bin Laden since 1998. In 1999, Pakistani officials assured us that their government was taking the Bin Laden ‘matter very seriously.’ And they were indeed. After 9/11, the United States directed at least billions in aid to Pakistan, hitting a high of over $800 million a year after the attacks, and reaching another high of $2.9 billion the year before the United States found him hiding in a Pakistani military town.
The Pakistani government claimed that we had ‘martyred’ him even while pretending it had no idea he was there. The Obama administration stepped down aid to Pakistan to a mere $1 billion a year.
Negotiating with Islamic terrorists has never worked. It’s not about to suddenly start working at this late date. The only thing that negotiating with Islamic terrorists leads to is more terrorism. America’s Founding Fathers learned that nearly 250 years ago. We insist on forgetting it.
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Only one thing has ever worked.
Can we please learn a lesson or two from the Founding Fathers who understood what Islam is/was and knew what to do about it?
Iran is challenging. It's a huge, mountainous country -- "boots on the ground" doesn't seem like a good idea. And more importantly, Iran doesn't really have a functioning government. It has scattered military leaders with scattered military groups, all operating independently. How do you make a peace agreement with that? I don't know if we can.
Iran’s only real card is closing the Strait of Hormuz
Looking back at history, conquerors like the Assyrians, the Muslims, and the Mongols found a way -- kill millions of people until there is no one left to challenge you.
Maybe our only real card to play is to nuke an Iranian city once a week for a month or two. Then see if the Strait stays open. Don't even negotiate. Don't talk. Just beat them mercilessly and wait and see how their behavior changes.
We aren’t going to nuke any cities.
A friend who served as an officer in Afghanistan and Iraq said possibly you could pacify them with a combination of bribes and telling them if they violate you will kill them and every member of their family.
We aren’t going to do that either.
In fairness to Trump while he’s trying to negotiate he also was killing the hell out of them.
You dont have to kill millions.
Just make all the coasts near the straight of Hormuz a demilitarized zone. That makes attacks on shipping much easier to defend against.
Just wack them hard anytime they launch a missile or a drone. We know where they come from, they cannot do so without us knowing.
Their ace is that if they can drag this out until November, the Republicans will likely lose both the House and the Senate, and Trump will be hamstrung for the remainder of his term.
You can’t negotiate with a 7th century death cult, bribes or other reasoning. It’s been a curse on humanity for some 14 centuries and becoming worse by individuals acting alone, thank goodness we’ll all be dead when this global civil war breaks out.
There are many of our states already that are inundated with this curse of humanity.
If in war, destroy Muslims completely and utterly and require unconditional surrender.
If in your own country, history tells us the options are Deport, Convert or Kill Islamists.
Otherwise they deceive you and destroy you.
Dream on!
Iran has not honored a single treaty since 1979 and to assume that is going to change is an idiots folly. Keep the blockade on, stop the flow from Kharg Island, and wait for surrender. Foment and support domestic unrest while all of this is going on. I think the Iranian people want to be out from under the theocratic thumb of the current regime.
Seems to depend a lot on who is holding the most powerful weapon.
Seems to depend a lot on who is holding the most powerful weapon.
There is only one solution to moslem invaders: Double tap...
Yes. The solution isn’t to engage in stupid endless military campaigns halfway around the world. It’s to conduct our foreign and domestic affairs as if the Strait of Hormuz didn’t even exist.
Annihilation seems harsh, but the threat might at least get some of the “moderate” Muslims to declare where their allegiance lies.
THiS is their stratgery.
And I'd betcha they're getting help from the dims on this....probably even encouragement to keep up the attacks.
No, same as with the left.
That’s basically it... it’s not so much a “negotiation” as much as it is a “Either comply or eat lead” declaration. He’d like to get it done peacefully, but will resort to the necessary means to make them comply if necessary.
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