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Second and third shots at Renee Good raise questions, experts say
KSTP TV - ABC Affiliate in Minneapolis/St Paul ^ | 1/9/26 | Ryan Raiche - Staff reporter

Posted on 01/09/2026 11:24:08 AM PST by MplsSteve

Multiple videos captured the deadly encounter between a federal agent and Renee Good, raising questions about whether it was an authorized use of force.

Rob Doar, a defense attorney and head of the Gun Owners Law Center, reviewed the videos with 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS. He emphasized that the use of force should be a last resort, used only in self-defense after all other options are exhausted.

“The first shot seems to be while the vehicle is advancing towards him,” said Doar. “The second and third shot that we see in the video comes from the side driver’s window. That becomes part of the analysis is he’s out of the zone of danger at that point, and then is it reasonable for him to continue firing being outside of the zone of danger?”

Doar said the analysis will focus on whether the agent was in danger when firing the second and third shots. The mindset of the officer at the moment is crucial, as it determines the lawfulness of the force used.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: awfl; awflattack; banglist; dancingonpinheads; demnartative; experts; expertssay; goodriddance; ice; iceshooting; mplssteve; protestor; robdoar; robdoorknob; shooting
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A few things to consider here...

1. Don't flame me. I'm just posting this for discussion. 2. Don't trash Rob Doar. He's as 2nd Amendment and pro-lawn enforcement as anyone. 3. Please read the whole article. it's not long.

Given this observation by a pro-2A guy, does it sound like the ICE agent has anything to worry about?

1 posted on 01/09/2026 11:24:08 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

I want to know why some guy had a huge dinosaur in the driveway. Part of this or some random oddity.


2 posted on 01/09/2026 11:25:46 AM PST by RummyChick (If I did not provide a link in my post none will be forthcoming )
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To: MplsSteve

My question: Is the dog okay?


3 posted on 01/09/2026 11:25:53 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: MplsSteve

Massad Ayoob has spoken on this issue at length.


4 posted on 01/09/2026 11:25:57 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: MplsSteve

“ICE agent has anything to worry about?”

Multiple shots is how they train.


5 posted on 01/09/2026 11:27:48 AM PST by pelican001
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To: BenLurkin

I read that it is fine. El Dyke-o got it out of the car.


6 posted on 01/09/2026 11:28:08 AM PST by madison10 ("...the dark places of the earth are full of the haunts of cruelty." Psalm 74:20b [NKJV])
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To: MplsSteve

This is stupid. The guy was in mortal danger and squeezed off three shots in rapid succession in a fraction of a second, as he was taught to do.


7 posted on 01/09/2026 11:28:45 AM PST by norcal joe
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To: madison10

Thx!


8 posted on 01/09/2026 11:28:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: MplsSteve

I love arm-chair QB’s on an incident that was less than a blink of an eye in real time (second or two). At that point you are in muscle memory and survival mode. Who’s to say she wouldn’t have stopped and backed up to finish the job.


9 posted on 01/09/2026 11:29:44 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: BenLurkin

This is the second time i’ve seen someone asked this question- the first time was 30 seconds ago!!!


10 posted on 01/09/2026 11:30:12 AM PST by God luvs America
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To: MplsSteve

I admit, i didn’t go read all of it. But the vehicle was still moving. So the threat really hadn’t been eliminated. Most people will agree that defensive action should be continued until the threat is eliminated. So, IMHO he should have dumped an entire magazine, unless he was worried about hitting other people....


11 posted on 01/09/2026 11:30:27 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: MplsSteve

In a life and death situation you fire till the threat is neutralized


12 posted on 01/09/2026 11:31:00 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: MplsSteve

Should we consider that what appeared to be a driver in a rage could well have hit other people and the best way to prevent that possibility was to use any and all ways to stop her.


13 posted on 01/09/2026 11:31:38 AM PST by dmet
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To: RummyChick

the dinosaur looking thing is in alpha news own tweet right after the woman says they dont change their plates every day

it doesnt look like a snow illusion


14 posted on 01/09/2026 11:31:50 AM PST by RummyChick (If I did not provide a link in my post none will be forthcoming )
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To: MplsSteve

The suspect blocked law enforcement vehicles, the suspect was ordered out of the vehicle, the suspect then attempted to run over a ICE agent.

People who try to kill cops and others cannot be allowed to leave the scene, as they will be a danger to everyone, not just cops.

This is not complex.


15 posted on 01/09/2026 11:31:54 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin
>>My question: Is the dog okay?<<

No, he's being held hostage by mentally ill people...

16 posted on 01/09/2026 11:31:56 AM PST by Smittie (Just li <p>k an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: MplsSteve

I admit, i didn’t go read all of it. But the vehicle was still moving. So the threat really hadn’t been eliminated. Most people will agree that defensive action should be continued until the threat is eliminated. So, IMHO he should have dumped an entire magazine, unless he was worried about hitting other people....


17 posted on 01/09/2026 11:31:58 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: norcal joe

This is stupid. The guy was in mortal danger and squeezed off three shots in rapid succession in a fraction of a second, as he was taught to do.


Exactly.


18 posted on 01/09/2026 11:32:16 AM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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To: pelican001
Multiple shots is how they train.

My sidearm training in the Air Force was to fire three rounds.

19 posted on 01/09/2026 11:32:23 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: MplsSteve

Yeah I wasn’t crazy about the 2nd and 3rd shots either.

But I was not there, and I was not the one being run over by a dirty leftist. Also to note is that the agent was not, at first, in the path of the car. The driver backed up her car... aimed it at the agent... made eye contact... and then deliberately stomped the gas so hard that the airbag deployed when she wrecked into the back of another vehicle after she was dead.

Actually it will be interesting to know when the airbag deployed. If the airbag deployed because she hit the ice officer or because she hit the car.

The ‘wife’ was too busy filming and shouting that the agent was a criminal to care that her partner had been killed.


20 posted on 01/09/2026 11:32:33 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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