Posted on 12/28/2025 5:12:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Commentator says nation should follow U.S. model of nation-building as U.K wrestles with 'imported disintergration'
LONDON: A battle over British identity and the nation's flag is just the latest issue to widen the political divide in the United Kingdom in 2025. As the Labour government continues to face growing criticism over a number of issues, from cracking down on free speech to its migration policies, many Britons are concerned about their country's future.
The issue simmered over the summer amid concerns of a growing rift between the ruling elites and members of the public centered on the nation’s flag. The debate, while ongoing for several years, gained new life since anti-Israel protests erupted after Hamas’ mass terror attack against Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, when Britain saw a proliferation of Palestinian flags across the country.
Tensions were further heightened over the display of Palestinian flags on public buildings, with critics arguing it represents an abandonment of traditional British values, and that immigrant communities are dictating community values. Several councils in major cities bowed to public pressure. Those cities — all with sizable immigrant communities — including Sheffield, Preston, Bradford and others chose to raise the Palestinian flag last month to honor the United Nations International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People.
"There's only one flag that should be flying on public buildings in the U.K., and I include the home nations of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, and that's the Union flag. We need to start cohering around national stories and symbols, and the flag is the simplest, most visual, visceral way of doing that," Colin Brazier, a commentator on British culture, told Fox News Digital.
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You can’t say it’s the thought that counts because the Brits are beyond the point of no return.
“dictating community values“
Every time you hear politicians say “fighting for our values” or “standing up for our principles” remember “values” are not a concrete thing.
People are.
It’s the people that make a nation, not values or principles.
The Garden of England by Gerry Rafferty
Way down south in the garden of England
We got a song to sing and we let it fill the air
We got it made in the garden of England
Where the sun comes up to see us everyday.
We feel like strangers but still we call it home
We got no reason but still we feel alone
But when the night comes we can roll away the stone
To each his own, to each his own
Yeah the simple life.
We live at home in the garden of England
They got us on the run, we can feel it in the air
We got it made in the garden of England
Where we celebrate the English way of life.
They had an empire, they give it all away
Their finest hour seems only yesterday
They still remember when Britannia ruled the waves
She ruled the waves, she ruled the waves
Yeah the simple life.
A song from 45 years ago. It’s safe to say things haven’t gotten better.
My most-hated favorite: "It's not who we are."
“reshaping”
The Stranger by Rudyard Kipling The Stranger within my gate, He may be true or kind, But he does not talk my talk— I cannot feel his mind. I see the face and the eyes and the mouth, But not the soul behind. The men of my own stock They may do ill or well, But they tell the lies I am wonted to, They are used to the lies I tell. And we do not need interpreters When we go to buy and sell. The Stranger within my gates, He may be evil or good, But I cannot tell what powers control— What reasons sway his mood; Nor when the Gods of his far-off land Shall repossess his blood. The men of my own stock, Bitter bad they may be, But, at least, they hear the things I hear, And see the things I see; And whatever I think of them and their likes They think of the likes of me. This was my father's belief And this is also mine: Let the corn be all one sheaf— And the grapes be all one vine, Ere our children's teeth are set on edge By bitter bread and wine.
Britain is dead.
L
COROLLARY: “Foreign aid is money taken from poor people in rich countries and given to rich people in poor countries.”
The most dire analysis I’ve seen is by Prof David Betz of the London War College.
His background is the study of civil wars in the Third World. He is now applying the same indicators to Britain and Western europe. And his conclusion is that those countries are also headed for civil war.
Ah, yes. The old phrase, "Taxation without representation" rings a bell...
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