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Posted on 12/12/2025 10:46:35 AM PST by marshmallow
According to the plan of the European Commission, this step is the first phase in further expropriation of Russian assets
BRUSSELS, December 12. /TASS/. The Council of the European Union made the decision on the indefinite freeze of Russian sovereign assets, the Danish presidency in the EU Council said.
"EU governments agree to indefinitely freeze Russian Central Bank assets held in Euro," the presidency said.
According to the plan of the European Commission, this step is the first phase in further expropriation of Russian assets.
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When a nation invades its neighbor making revanchist territorial claims in modern Europe, bad things will happen to it. It becomes a pariah, as it should. Peace is not achieved by appeasement, as Neville Chamberlain learned the hard way.
That war started in 2014 with a western backed color Revolution what we’re dealing with today is just the unintended consequences of meddling
Yep, all too true.
Also too true: the EU that will seize assets for one reason will seize them for another reason.
Oh, please stop that nonsense. The opening salvo was when Russia pressured Yanukovych to betray his electorate and renege on the EU economic agreement. The protests were a natural outcome of this, not a CIA plot. There were two national elections afterwards that chose the governments; again, not the CIA. Nor did any of this justify Russia’s seizure of Crimea and Donbas 2014, nor the subsequent invasion in 2022. There is nothing that justifies what Russia is doing.
Oh please, stop that nonsense. You have no idea what the CIA has been up to.
But they’re still buying Russian energy.
And wanna bet they gave the Russians a chance to move it before the announcement...
But they’re still buying Russian energy.
Bingo! It’s all a big shell game.
The western European war aim is to exterminate their own indigenous working classes. Think Putin cares about that either way?
I was unaware that you had access to the minutes of the secret CIA meetings. Please post them and share them with the rest of the class.
By the way, you have not disputed that this all started with the pressure that Russia put on Yanukovych to renege on the EU economic agreement. This is what started this whole mess.
The war was provoked by NATO expansionism. Seizing Russia’s assets is illegal and will lead to further escalation. Trump must intervene now and stop the EU from implementing this unwise measure.
You are the one making claims about what the CIA has been doing and not doing. Yet you have no idea, do you?
By the way, you have not disputed that this all started with the pressure that Russia put on Yanukovych to renege on the EU economic agreement. This is what started this whole mess.
Why should I "dispute it"? It's a false dichotomy. Discontent with a government is not mutually exclusive with Western involvement in fomenting color revolutions. The whole modus operandi of communist revolutionary action during the Cold War was to feed off poor living conditions, misery and discontent to initiate communist uprisings. The communists, like you here, told us that this was all "spontaneous" and there was no hidden agenda.
[2026]
Official Minutes of the Committee for the Compensation of Seized Asset Victims, Moscow
The following Russian Federation patents of the EU1 drug company are placed in the EU1 Compensation Trust:
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We find Claimant 32 has suffered the loss of 30,000 Euros. His claim for 300 shares of the EU1 Compensation Trust has been granted
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[2027]
The Sino-Siberian Cancer Treatment Organization will use patented technologies once owned by leading EU, UK and UK drug companies that have been transferred to Russian asset confiscation compensation trusts and Chinese chemical experts & oncologists to provide Chinese cancer patients with the latest cancer drug treatments at unbeatably low costs at Siberian treatment centers such as the one nearing completion in Vladivostok.
Investors from India are looking for warmer locales in the Federation.
The potential customer base:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4789456,81.0764509,4z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Interesting item:
In the course of day to day commerce, it is possible and even likely that Russian could suspend payment on obligations it might have. The damaged party could demand that payment, in a court of law. The presence of those known assets at Euroclear is now pretty public.
The damaged party with a judgment in its favor would likely have a stronger claim on the assets than Ukraine.
“this all started with the pressure that Russia put on Yanukovych to renege on the EU economic agreement.”
The EU offered something like $700 million, about $18/Ukrainian.
Russia offered about 20 times more as I understand things.
It is you who are making the assertion without evidence. As for what we do know, the EU economic agreement was wildly popular, gaining over 60% support, and was already approved by the parliament. Even Yanukovych himself had earlier supported it. One does not need to assume a CIA conspiracy to understand the popular outrage.
Cut and paste any "assertions" I've made. The assertions are all yours. Assertion #1 was that the CIA was definitely not involved. Now you've back-tracked a little (wisely) and said ...."One does not need to assume a CIA conspiracy". There's a difference...a big one......between saying the CIA had no involvement (implying knowledge of what the CIA is/was doing) and saying one can propose a theory to explain what happened without invoking the CIA. That's true but that's not your actual position, is it?
My point (not an assertion), made in response to your dogmatic claim of CIA non-involvement, is simply this; "popular outrage" is often the seed for external meddling and interference. The two, in fact, go hand in hand, historically. One does not exclude the other. Exhibit A is the communist method of initiating revolution. Ergo, your claim of "popular outrage" in no way excludes the possibility of CIA involvement. Those who have an agenda and wish to see a particular outcome in a certain country, will see discontent as an opportunity to further the agenda.
So no sale for your claim that the CIA had nothing to do with the current situation.
Yanukovych did not “ renege” on an EU agreement because he never agreed to the terms being demanded. The IMF to back loans as part of the deal demanded Fiscal austerity that would have led to social unrest, the deal demanded release of an imprisoned opposition political figure no one but the alphabet agencies wanted released, the deal demanded cutoff of all trade with non-EU trade associations with Belarus and Central Asia that would have devastated the UKR economy, the western investors demanded an agreement to let private foreign investors buy State resources like farmland ( almost half of uKR farmland which is now owned by foreign conglomerates like BlackRock)
Russia offered loan terms to cover the crushing Ukraine debt under far more favorable ( to Ukraine) conditions. As Yanukovych dithered in deciding, the Nuland cabal made its move to preempt him choosing the Russian deal, and amped up a color revolution backed by the PsyOp that Yanokovych was “ betraying” Ukrainian aspirations to join the EU
Which they still have not done…correct
A lot of verbiage to hide the fact that he was still going against the popular will.
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