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Germany’s Secret Plan for War With Russia
WSJ ^ | 27 Nov, 2025 | Bertrand Benoit

Posted on 11/27/2025 3:23:12 PM PST by Reverend Wright

The blueprint details how as many as 800,000 German, U.S. and other NATO troops would be ferried eastward toward the front line. It maps the ports, rivers, railways and roads they would travel, and how they would be supplied and protected on the way.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: andrebodemann; bertrandbenoit; claudiamajor; germany; holgerbanik; jannikhartmann; marclemmermann; nato; notsosecret; olafscholz; oplandeu; paulstrobel; peterthiel; quantumsystems; redstormbravo; russia; timstuchtey; wsj
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To: dfwgator

Why do you say that?

The Turks I know from western Turkey aren’t enthusiastic about Erdogan. And Turkey has structural problems


141 posted on 11/29/2025 7:08:25 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

The Turks I know from western Turkey aren’t enthusiastic about Erdogan.


I am not saying it will happen with Erdogan, this is more 10-20 years down the road. But Erdogan is certainly planting the seeds.


142 posted on 11/29/2025 7:11:39 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: dfwgator

Interesting. Share more of what you are thinking. I haven’t paid much attention to Turkey


143 posted on 11/29/2025 7:14:52 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Reverend Wright

Is that a first-strike attack plan, or a defend-the-invasion plan?

It would be insane to pick a fight with a nuclear armed opponent.


144 posted on 11/29/2025 9:28:50 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They want Russia's stuff.

So, be civilized; TRADE for it!

145 posted on 11/29/2025 9:31:50 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They want Russia's stuff.

So, be civilized; TRADE for it!

146 posted on 11/29/2025 9:31:50 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They want Russia's stuff.

So, be civilized; TRADE for it!

147 posted on 11/29/2025 9:32:18 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: Reverend Wright; All

I don’t think that this article is serious. I think it’s a bad joke.

But he who trusts the media is doomed from the outset. The media want to sell papers, nothing more.
And they are doing their best, now that Ukraine‘s powers are depleted, to keep the war against Russia going. The neocons are still pulling strings behind the scenes…

Should be as clear as light of day, I thought…


148 posted on 11/29/2025 10:25:21 AM PST by Menes (May Charlie Kirk‘s memory be a blessing. Amen.)
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To: Reverend Wright

Germany can nuke The Kremlin from orbit, and the world will give a sigh of relief. Or nuke Russian’s five largest vodka distilleries. They will surrender Ukraine within a week


149 posted on 11/29/2025 10:36:39 AM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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To: alternatives?

This would be the Rubber Match.


150 posted on 11/29/2025 10:42:12 AM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: JimRed
So, be civilized; TRADE for it!

Trade with what? They're broke. They have destroyed their own economies. Their only hope of clinging to power is a declared war and martial law.

151 posted on 11/29/2025 11:22:13 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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To: dennisw

Germany doesn’t have nuclear weapons.

Maybe they could build them if they take time out from destroying their electrical power grid, and de-industrializing their economy.


152 posted on 11/29/2025 11:39:31 AM PST by Reverend Wright (Anschluss now !)
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To: Menes

I think the main information value in this article is that a gov’t/military source leaked this.

Not that the media printed it.

The author is the WSJ correspondent in Germany. But I seriously doubt the German military or gov’t would leak this. They just defer to the USA on this stuff.

I’m pretty sure this is a leak from the USA military/intel side.

But I don’t understand why anyone would think making this ludicrous plan public would improve anything.


153 posted on 11/29/2025 11:59:55 AM PST by Reverend Wright (Anschluss now !)
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To: Reverend Wright

Yes, you are definitely right, I believe.

After all, Berlin has deferred to the wishes of DC every time since Iraq…but this time, it seems that a peaceful solution to the current conflict should have been pursued by NATO - but as long as NATO exists, Berlin will have to do its bidding…whether for good or for ill, remains to be seen.


154 posted on 11/29/2025 10:37:21 PM PST by Menes (May Charlie Kirk‘s memory be a blessing. Amen.)
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To: Menes

It’s not clear to me now whether Europe wants this war to continue more than Trump.

I know there is divisions in the EU.

(there are divisions in the Trump Admin)


155 posted on 11/30/2025 1:37:26 AM PST by Reverend Wright (Anschluss now !)
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