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Trump’s signals to Zelensky and Europe: Accept this plan or you’re on your own
Cnn ^ | 23 Nov 25 | Tim Lister

Posted on 11/23/2025 9:40:12 AM PST by delta7

The 28-point plan hammered out by US and Russian envoys and put to Ukraine this week came with a deadline and an implicit threat: Sign up or face the risk of being abandoned. US President Donald Trump said Friday that Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky would “have to like” the US plan, suggesting he is in no mood to negotiate. Since then, Trump has sent mixed messages, saying the plan was not his final offer but adding that if Zelensky did not accept it he could “continue to fight his little heart out.” Zelensky recognized the stark choice in a somber speech to the nation on Friday, casting the plan as a choice between losing the United States as an ally and giving in to Russian demands, which many of the 28 points cater to.... ...The US briefly stopped sharing intelligence with Ukraine back in March, after the infamous Oval Office encounter between Trump and Zelensky. The exact nature of that cooperation has never been....

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TOPICS: Editorial; European Union; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: cnnfakenews; concerntroll; concerntrolling; eussr; fakenews; fourthreich; gloryhole; proxywar; russiademandsit; trumpswar; ukraine; war; welfarewar; zeepernosuchthing; zeepershasthesads; zeeyores; zot
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Seems President Trump has had enough of St Z. The news of Zelensky's inner circle fleeing Ukraine on corruption charges most likely has some bearing.
1 posted on 11/23/2025 9:40:12 AM PST by delta7
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Forgot...Go Mr. President! Way past time we put an end to senile Joe’s war.


2 posted on 11/23/2025 9:42:09 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

In Before Texas Stalker


3 posted on 11/23/2025 9:42:38 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

Trump told Zelinski sign the peace plan agreement or face removeable and be put in jail.

The US Vassal has come to his end.

Zeepers will no doubt be saddened by Trump’s threats to jail Zelinksi.


4 posted on 11/23/2025 9:44:32 AM PST by Jumper
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To: delta7

This is Obama’s war. He put those 12 secret military installions on Ukraine’s border which provoked the war with Russia. Obama has blood on his hands.


5 posted on 11/23/2025 9:44:47 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: delta7

6 posted on 11/23/2025 9:45:47 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Ge0ffrey

Trump tired to make gains off the Coup and maintian US power in Ukraine; it’s now Trump’s war. He doubled Ukrainian Army in size during his first term.


7 posted on 11/23/2025 9:46:14 AM PST by Jumper
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To: delta7
Tim Lister, XiNN: giving in to Russian demands, which many of the 28 points cater to

How DARE the Russians beat The Rebel Alliance!

Didn't The Putin ever watch Star Wars?

8 posted on 11/23/2025 9:46:15 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

Sounds like the dancing comedian lost the debate. Time to pony up!


9 posted on 11/23/2025 9:49:27 AM PST by Mashood
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To: delta7

I despise Zelensky, and I also despise Putin. Why should they give up territory? What part of the USA would you give up? How did land for peace work for Israel?


11 posted on 11/23/2025 9:59:05 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Democrat cult.)
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To: delta7

This is CNN. I see little reason to take their reporting at face value.


12 posted on 11/23/2025 10:00:58 AM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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... Zeepers will no doubt be saddened by Trump’s threats to jail Zelinksi.

When did President Trump threaten to send Zelensky to jail? American jail? Federal prison?

13 posted on 11/23/2025 10:01:58 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: delta7

People don’t realize how precarious the situation is for Ukraine.

Russia has the Ukraine Army in a rope-a-dope in the east.

If/when the Zelensky Government collapses, and if there is a messy fight for power (involving all the players, including the USA and EU), along with publicity of all kinds of scandals afterwards, it will create a huge power vacuum and collapse of the chain-of-command. Half the Ukraine Army will pack up and go home.


14 posted on 11/23/2025 10:02:28 AM PST by PGR88
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To: delta7

The End Game is here. We and NATO don’t have weapons to spare, they’ve all been used. Nobody is stupid enough to send troops. Trump now knows better than to send money, too much of it just disappears into crooked Ukrainian hands.

Ukraine’s best deal could have been made when the Russians “visited” Kiev. It’s been all downhill from there. The lesson is to NEVER listen to NATO when it comes to war.


15 posted on 11/23/2025 10:04:58 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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“This is CNN. I see little reason to take their reporting at face value.”

Attacking the source is just a lazy dodge of reality, you’re smarter than that.


16 posted on 11/23/2025 10:06:20 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: delta7

We have heard this before from Trump. Wish he would give up on this, but he won’t.


17 posted on 11/23/2025 10:10:05 AM PST by moviefan8
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What has been the net benefit of this foreign entanglement for us?


18 posted on 11/23/2025 10:11:55 AM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: delta7
“Seems President Trump has had enough of St Z.”

Spoken in 2025 by the same guy who wrote: “Putin will take the entire Ukraine in less than 2 weeks.”

— Martin A. Armstrong, February 25, 2022

Public service:

Martin Armstrong: Putin takes Ukraine in Three Days
19 posted on 11/23/2025 10:13:20 AM PST by CandyFloss
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To: delta7

With this ultimatum, Trump really, really, pinky swears, means it unlike the previous ultimatums


20 posted on 11/23/2025 10:19:07 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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