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What If the Shutdown Actually Hurt Republicans, Not Democrats?
MSN.com ^ | 11/13/2025 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 11/13/2025 2:19:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

There’s a lot of ill-suppressed glee among Republicans right now, along with recriminations among Democrats, about the resolution of the longest government shutdown ever. Eight Democratic senators were able to undercut a few hundred of their colleagues by ending a filibuster against a bill to reopen government, exhibiting both weakness and disunity. (Though there’s no telling how many holdouts privately agreed with the “cave.”) Worse, Democrats failed to secure an extension of Obamacare premium subsidies they repeatedly demanded.

So were Republicans the “winners” and Democrats the “losers” in the shutdown saga? Maybe now, but maybe not later. As the New York Times’ Annie Karni observes, the short-term stakes of the shutdown fight may soon be overshadowed by more enduring public perceptions of what the two parties displayed:

Trump’s clumsy and insensitive handling of the SNAP benefit cutoff was an unforced error and a gift to Democrats. But just as importantly, by “losing” the Obamacare subsidy–extension fight, Democrats may have dodged a bullet. A deal on that issue would have cushioned or even eliminated an Obamacare premium price hike that will...

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/13/2025 2:19:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What if monkeys flew out of my butt?


2 posted on 11/13/2025 2:21:07 PM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left)
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To: fwdude

What if six turned out to be nine?

I don’t mind.


3 posted on 11/13/2025 2:21:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have no answers. Only questions.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh my, more of INGSOC media trying to make us live in their alternate reality.


4 posted on 11/13/2025 2:21:52 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Assume a spherical cow."
5 posted on 11/13/2025 2:22:09 PM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If it did, it’s the fault of the LSM.


6 posted on 11/13/2025 2:22:48 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: OttawaFreeper

“Oh my, more of INGSOC media trying to make us live in their alternate reality.”

Compared to the DemocRAT/Media/Communist complex, INGSOC is almost a suitable alternate choice.


7 posted on 11/13/2025 2:25:10 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Project much, MSN?


8 posted on 11/13/2025 2:25:43 PM PST by mykroar ("It's Not the Nature of the Evidence; It's the Seriousness of the Charge." - El Rushbo)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The DNC fax went out. At least the 2nd article from the left steam media wishing the title was the case. Screw em.


9 posted on 11/13/2025 2:28:15 PM PST by DAC21
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“IF” a frog had wings, it wouldn’t whomp its butt every time it jumped.


10 posted on 11/13/2025 2:28:20 PM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Stay sexy, Ed.

11 posted on 11/13/2025 2:28:36 PM PST by Troublemaker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We have all too many people now who inhabit this forum, who if they don’t openly root for this to be true, and stupid and gullible enough to wet their panties over the thought of it.


12 posted on 11/13/2025 2:29:38 PM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What if the communists were right about everything?


13 posted on 11/13/2025 2:30:30 PM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What if the communists were right about everything?


14 posted on 11/13/2025 2:32:29 PM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated
What if the communists were right about everything?

That's it, in fewer words!

15 posted on 11/13/2025 2:33:33 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: enumerated

What if The Hokey Pokey really is what it’s all about?


16 posted on 11/13/2025 2:37:20 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I usually don’t bother reading MSM.
If I feed the need to do so I go
out and look at a pile of fresh dog shit
for minute. I learn that my dog doesn’t
have worms. That way more valuable
than any MSM publication.


17 posted on 11/13/2025 2:37:27 PM PST by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: dfwgator

It is. When I found out, it completely changed my life.


18 posted on 11/13/2025 2:39:34 PM PST by Right Brother (Apparently, a democratically elected President is a "threat to Democracy!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A Democrat declares victory for the umpteenth time, in the face of clear defeat? Shiver me timbers.


19 posted on 11/13/2025 2:39:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The ones holding it against the Republicans are not going to vote for them anyway. They are under complete control of the democrats. They know who promises them free stuff.


20 posted on 11/13/2025 2:40:31 PM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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