Posted on 10/21/2025 10:26:37 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
President Trump no longer plans to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin for a second in-person summit “in the immediate future” after Russia rejected his demand to stop the war in Ukraine along the current battle lines.
The White House announcement followed a Monday call between Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, which a source familiar with the conversation said demonstrated the Kremlin’s unwillingness to commit to Trump’s strategy for peace.
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Trump exhorted both sides to lay down their arms following the third White House meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky since Trump returned to office in January.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
You negotiate when you are losing.
Winners laugh, losers say “Deal!”
Trump is dealing with a thief and a lunatic... At least, there can be honor among thieves... A lunatic has no honor at all and he is, will and always will be a lunatic.
You can’t deal with lunatics... Somebody needs to get rid of Mad Vlad.
Not when you’re crazy... Putin is crazy.
Am I interpreting this as the Ruskies want Ukraine to surrender unconditionally or the war will dredge on until they have no other choice?
Another choice would be exactly what the war mongers want, which is total escalation into WWIII by having NATO forces directly engage Russia.
Version 1.0 is still active.
We’ve seen this Kabuki before.
1. Trump talks to Putin on the phone.
2. Trump tells everyone that it was a long fruitful and hopeful and productive talk.
3. Trump says that there will be scheduled face to face meeting.
4. Then everything goes back to what it was before.
I somehow think that #2 above is wishful thinking.
Waiting for the articles about H1-B visas for Russians and Chinese. It should be entertaining, and accompanied with RBGs.
Trump today suggests no meeting with Xi.
That is translated as “no Rare Earth Magnet” deal.
That is also translated as no Tomahawks can be built.
And that does not suggest Zelensky has many options.
What Kherson doink?
“Trump is dealing with a thief and a lunatic.”
Link please.
I have concluded that Russian leadership really hates Ukrainian independence and Ukrainian leadership really hates Russian hegemony.
There will be bad blood for generations of people in the region. And if Russian troops occupy the Western portions of Ukraine it will have to a hard time holding it without finishing exterminating them.
"...a source familiar with the conversation...."Recalling the premise for the first impeachment effort of President Trump, another "source familiar with the conversation" was a star witness. In that case, it was "familiar" with only one-half of a conversation, but what the heck? Good enough for government work.
President Trump is still going to deport you back to India. Pack your bags, Hadji.
I hope the developer includes a "donate to Free Republic" subroutine in Version 1.5.
This freeploading deadbeat is gettink pretty heavy to carry around.
I wonder if AImarcus is back to postink on the Great Big Giant zeeper thread? Jon Preston keeps 'em busy over there.
“Am I interpreting this as the Ruskies want Ukraine to surrender unconditionally or the war will dredge on until they have no other choice?”
You’re interpreting the headline the way ‘they’ want it interpreted, unless someone can point us to a call by Putin for Ukraine to ‘surrender unconditionally’.
The war will end when Russia’s objectives have been met, and they are FAR LESS than occupying the Nazi-infest Western half of Ukraine - that’s for Poland, if they’re dumb enough to want it.
I think you are correctly assessing this.
the Ruskies want Ukraine to surrender unconditionally
the war will dredge on until they have no other choice
total escalation into WWIII by having NATO forces directly engage Russia.
Perhaps Putin is betting he can continue and get more of whatever he thinks he is getting by staying in Ukraine, just short of NATO joining on the Uke’s side?
The Ukes have a losing hand; they don’t have enough people or manufacturing ability and are unlikely to be gifted what would be needed in weapons to win
Every day Putin stays and continues increases the likelihood that NATO will step in somehow, regardless of the risks. The whole thing is very sad now and the outlook is even sadder.
Durka durka. Go back to India.
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