Posted on 10/19/2025 7:28:14 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
U.S. President Donald Trump pushed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to give up swaths of territory to Russia during a tense meeting on Friday that left the Ukrainian delegation disappointed, according to two people briefed on the discussion.
Trump also declined to provide Tomahawk missiles for Ukraine's use, and mused about giving security guarantees to both Kyiv and Moscow, comments that the Ukrainian delegation found confusing, added the two sources, who requested anonymity to discuss a private conversation.
After his meeting with Zelenskiy, Trump publicly called for a ceasefire on the current frontlines, a position that the Ukrainian president then embraced in comments to reporters. A third person said Trump came up with that proposal during the meeting after Zelenskiy said he would not voluntarily cede any territory to Moscow.
"The meeting ended with (Trump's) decision to make a 'deal where we are, on the demarcation line,'" the third source said.
Overall, while not a disaster for the Ukrainians, the discussion was a clear disappointment for Zelenskiy, who had hoped to convince Trump to supply his government with long-range Tomahawk missiles capable of hitting deep inside Russia.
The White House and the Ukrainian president's office did not respond to a request for comment. Elements of the talks were first reported by The Financial Times on Sunday.
But the Friday meeting indicates that Trump may once again be pushing for a deal as quickly as possible, even if it is on terms that are unpalatable for Kyiv.
U.S. officials repeatedly brought up the possibility of a territorial swap between Ukraine and Russia — an idea that Trump had embraced earlier in the year — and the U.S. president said during the Friday meeting that a quick agreement was essential, the sources said.
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The more I think about this topic, the more I am convinced this is either
a leak from Zelensky or a Fake Story meant to set Trump up,
Just like Zelensky set Trump up on the Phone Call that caused Trump
to be impeached.
Give up your territory for your territory. Celebrate with a taco dinner.
Zeke is a fool and a selfish little prick who will bring death and misery to the people of Ukraine. No cards no class just s deluded little worm who gets played by the rats and the EU.
All sorts of unreasonable stuff said about Zelensky.
There are the mansions in various locales. I have never seen any support for those stories.
There is cocaine talk. Is there any evidence about this during his term of office?
Zelensky is trying to win. He’s doing exactly what anyone trying to win would do. Dragging in all of NATO is his only possible chance to win so of course he has been trying to drag them in. Anyone trying to win, would.
Black hats and white hats do not matter. Throughout all of history there have been many rulers facing defeat and trying desperately not to accept that. He is no different from any other such.
It’s an easier mental task for him to deny defeat because he has the Euros reassuring him and the global media declaring he is man of the year, a spectacular human being and whatever.
He has manufactured stories left and right about Russian targeting and even Russian air invasion of NATO countries. Anyone trying to win and as desperate as he is . . . would do that.
There’s nothing horrible about all this. He’s faced every day with creeping defeat and fighting off that acceptance is a daily thing. There is very little he would not do to avoid defeat.
The evil in the situation is the EU. They know they are using Ukraine lives to achieve their own goals, which, frankly, are to dodge any responsibility for a defeat that the voters would assign to them. Losing their positions of power, in their view, is worth Ukraine lives.
Trump tells Ukraine: Accept Putin’s demands ‘or be destroyed’
US president, shouting and swearing, pressures Zelensky to surrender the Donetsk region
I doubt it happened.
The EU is underway doing whatever it can to stop Trump making this decision.
Make no mistake here. It’s about EU leaders holding their power. They will lose it if they have to face voters and explain the billions they sent were wasted.
They don’t care how many Ukrainians die so long as they can avoid that political configuration.
This! ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑
I was watching Z during the press briefing and Q&A.
What a funny little man.
Him, and all his head postures, random facial expressions, watching stuff on the upper wall or ceiling, snapping in and out of attention. Maybe he was stoned. Maybe he is very mentally ill. Whatever he is, it ain’t normal. Possessed by a demon??
I saw a Trump video last week, he said it wasn’t time to even think about sending Tomahawks to Ukraine. This is all media fluff.
I saw a Trump video last week, he said it wasn’t time to even think about sending Tomahawks to Ukraine. This is all media fluff.
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