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Trump plans victory fund for Ukraine
The Telegraph, via Yahoo! News ^ | October 15, 2025 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 10/16/2025 7:56:35 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Donald Trump is working on establishing a Ukraine victory fund which will be bankrolled by fresh tariffs on China.

The US president instructed Scott Bessent, his treasury secretary, to float the plan to European counterparts ahead of Volodymyr Zelensky’s visit to Washington DC on Friday.

Mr Trump, who previously claimed Mr Zelensky did not “hold the cards” for a military victory, is increasingly losing patience with Vladimir Putin, and his proposal for a Ukraine war shift marks a significant change in his position.

His language was mimicked by Pete Hegseth, the US secretary of defence, who told a meeting of Nato counterparts that the US was prepared to support Kyiv “in ways that only the United States can do” should Russia continue to shun peace talks.

Discussions in Brussels focused on the potential delivery of long-range Tomahawk missiles and funding Ukraine’s armed resistance into a fifth year.

“President Trump has instructed the ambassador and myself to tell our European allies that we would be in favour of whether you would call it a ‘Russian oil tariff’ on China or a ‘Ukrainian victory tariff’ on China,” Mr Bessent told reporters in Washington on Wednesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 0realityis; 1aharshteacher; bobtrollisstillatard; bs; bunnydroppings; china; doofustrump; europe; hegseth; hopiumforzeepers; idiotism; moarwar; nato; proxywar; trump; ukraine; welfarewar; zeeperporn
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To: Dogbert41

“Now the tariff money once thought to be given to us ripped off Americans is
going to NAZI Ukraine? WTF is going on?”

Definitely not an America First Policy.


21 posted on 10/16/2025 10:10:05 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: delta7
….. the Ukie Neo Nazis who started bombing the Russian Donbass in 2014.When Lughansk and Donetsk voted for Independence FROM Ukraine, the shelling increased and the West backed them with $$$ billions to continue the war against Russia.

Sorry, but that false tale will no longer fly. The truth: When the Ukrainian people rose up against Putin's attempt to turn Ukraine into a puppet state, after which he invaded Donbas and held a mock referendum. Fighting then broke out between legitimate Ukrainian forces attempting to restore order and Russian backed militants from the ethnic Russian minority. The results included unintended civilian casualties on both sides, casualties that fell off drastically after 2016.

22 posted on 10/16/2025 10:16:48 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Wuli

“There was ONE “creator” of the war in Ukraine - Putin. Minus Putin no war in Ukraine.”
____________________________________________________________

Exactly! I have never understood all of the Putin/Russia supporters on what is supposed to be a US conservative website.


23 posted on 10/16/2025 10:45:02 AM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king
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To: Owen

Again - (China, India) as far as central banks measure, is not a stand in definition of “Asia” . In terms of central bank reserves, much smaller Japan has twice the reserves as India.

Why don’t you admit it. Your idea of “Asia” in any of this defies reality. “Asia” no matter how you look at financially is not “China-India”.


24 posted on 10/16/2025 10:50:16 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: delta7
More lies.

So how's Socrates doing?

25 posted on 10/16/2025 11:26:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: Wuli

Who told you that you were permitted to look at it financially.

Why would you want to — rather than population, or even food self sufficiency. Things that actually matter to respiration and heartbeat.


26 posted on 10/16/2025 11:31:34 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

“Who told you that you were permitted to look at it financially.”

You did with: “Financial sense is defined by a substance central banks create from nothingness.”

You are one confused individual.


27 posted on 10/16/2025 11:42:27 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: delta7

“the Ukie Neo Nazis who started bombing the Russian Donbass in 2014.When Lughansk and Donetsk voted for Independence FROM Ukraine, “

You are adding legitimacy to antifa.


28 posted on 10/16/2025 1:54:13 PM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Timber Rattler

We’ve got no razor blades,
We’ve got no victory gin,
I’ve got no tiny alcove
To hide myself in...

-— Utopia -—
“Winston Smith Takes it on the Jaw”.


29 posted on 10/16/2025 5:27:27 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: Timber Rattler

So how’s Socrates doing?
——————
Well, I followed the Socrates ECM, started PMs in 2023, and am up 189 percent. …and this bull is just starting. Say all you want against Socrates, but I have done very, very well following for two decades.


30 posted on 10/16/2025 6:21:24 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

“Say all you want against Socrates, but I have done very, very well following for two decades.”

How did you follow “Socrates” when he was in jail?


Armstrong was indicted in 1999 and ordered by Judge Richard Owen to turn over fifteen million dollars in gold bars and antiquities bought with the fund’s money; the list included bronze helmets and a bust of Julius Caesar.[16][17] Armstrong produced some of the items but claimed the others were not in his possession; this led to several contempt of court charges brought by the SEC and the CFTC, for which he served seven years in jail until he reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors.[18][19][20] Under the terms of the agreement, Armstrong admitted to deceiving corporate investors and improperly commingling client funds—actions that according to prosecutors resulted in commodities losses of more than seven hundred million dollars—and was sentenced to five years in prison.[21][16]

He was released from federal custody on 2 September 2011 after serving a total of eleven years behind bars.[22][23]

The case against Armstrong was finally closed in 2017, with the distribution of about $80 million to claim holders by the receiver, according to court filings.

Wiki


31 posted on 10/17/2025 8:30:56 AM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: delta7

“Say all you want against Socrates, but I have done very, very well following for two decades.”

Liar.

——— 2009 -————

He no longer talks to central bankers, or has access to his computer models—and, apparently, no one else does, either. (“The methodology has to remain a secret until I am free at last,” he wrote recently.)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/12/the-secret-cycle?utm_campaign=falcon&utm_source=facebook&mbid=social_facebook&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=tny&fbclid=IwY2xjawNfQdpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFPS1ZNUVhIUlBGcENjZXVKAR7AsXHPdOVsNrEMibmSwMd6IVOIY1LV4bugUszBaiDBeA0jcIPlLQerYUgKjg_aem_4p4Wru2J6cQr-r6Eo4wH3w


32 posted on 10/17/2025 8:41:12 AM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: delta7


Say all you want against Socrates, but I have done very, very well following for two decades.”


2015: A decade ago, Armstrong was already anticipating a gold price peak of $5,000 per ounce,

https://www.google.com/search?q=martin+armstrong+gold+%245000&oq=martin+armstrong+gold+%245000&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRiPAtIBCTE3NTg5ajBqNKgCDrACAfEFtQNMuTkvtIY&client=tablet-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8


33 posted on 10/17/2025 8:51:55 AM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: delta7

Go with coins that are recognized by the general public.

Be wary.. Gold bars can be filled with lead.

https://youtu.be/FvcfYyuMDh8?si=JkftJ9IX30jPCLsI


34 posted on 10/17/2025 9:15:40 AM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Bob Wills is still the king
"Exactly! I have never understood all of the Putin/Russia supporters on what is supposed to be a US conservative website."

$$$$

35 posted on 10/17/2025 11:42:10 AM PDT by TexasGator (11The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Wuli

Yeah, Russia was just going to allow NATO to expand against all their borders while the murder all their Russian natives who have been living there for 400+ years. Ok. I guess if your goal is WWIII, that’s definitely a highway for it.


36 posted on 10/22/2025 7:28:26 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Dogbert41

The only one who is reaching for WWIII is Putin. If he keeps it up, he’ll get it.


37 posted on 10/22/2025 9:12:30 AM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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