Posted on 09/25/2025 12:09:40 PM PDT by marshmallow
"Quite a few planes violate Russia's airspace, accidentally and not accidentally. No one shoots them down," Alexey Meshkov emphasized
PARIS, September 25. /TASS/. Russia’s ambassador to France Alexey Meshkov has warned that if NATO were shooting down Russian planes allegedly violating the airspace of the alliance's member countries, that would mean war.
"There would be war. What else could there be?" Meshkov said on RTL radio, responding to a question about Russia's possible response.
"Quite a few planes violate our airspace, accidentally and not accidentally. No one shoots them down," the ambassador added.
Meshkov also stated that Europe has not provided "any material evidence" proving Russia's involvement in UAV incidents in Europe.
"First of all, we're not playing games with anyone. Secondly, after the West has deceived us so many times, we believe only the hard facts," Meshkov said.
On September 23, during a meeting with Vladimir Zelensky on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, US President Donald Trump affirmatively answered a question from reporters about whether NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft should they violate their airspace. When asked whether the US was prepared to assist its NATO allies in this matter, Trump explained that it "depends on the circumstances."
Russia's response
Earlier, Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed claims that Russian military aircraft had allegedly violated the airspace of other countries baseless and unsubstantiated. He made this statement in response to a question about the Kremlin's assessment of Trump's agreement that NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they violate the alliance's airspace. In this regard, the Kremlin spokesman recalled the Russian Defense Ministry's statements: "Our military aviation complies with all flight regulations and rules, is guided by them, and adheres to them most strictly."
Earlier, Estonian Prime Minister Kristen Michal stated that Tallinn had requested consultations with NATO members in accordance with Article 4 of the North Atlantic Treaty regarding the alleged violation of the country's airspace by Russian fighter jets. Prior to this, Estonian authorities claimed that three MiG-31 jets had entered Estonian airspace on the morning of September 19.
The Russian Defense Ministry stated that the Russian fighter jets did not violate Estonian airspace. The three MiG-31s, it said, were on a scheduled flight from Karelia to the Kaliningrad Region. The flight was conducted in strict compliance with international airspace regulations and did not violate the borders of other states, as confirmed by objective monitoring, the Russian Defense Ministry emphasized. During the flight, the Russian aircraft did not deviate from the agreed-upon air route and did not violate Estonia's borders, the ministry pointed out.
So we're supposed to just forget about Korean Air Lines Flight 007?
KAL... beat me to it.
If this is true, and we're getting our panties in a knot because a Russian jet came into Poland's airspace, then it looks like the usual American double standard. (It's only a crime when they do it.)
The right to shoot down military aircraft over sovereign state air space has existed for a very long time. Just because the right hasn’t often been utilized does not negate that.
And after a dozen Russian Shahed drones indeed violated Polish air space- including one hitting a civilian home - and the clear evidence was that they were not “lost” but were being piloted exactly where they were intended (maybe as a threat?) - then I would say any nation who finds a Russian aircraft, whether a bomber, fighter, or drone, has the right to shoot it down, if they feel it is a threat.
I’m sure you’ll do much better fighting the whole of Europe with an aggrieved Trump than you’re doing fighting Ukraine. I think Europe and Trump should offer the following deal: Take All of Ukraine without using weapons of mass destruction in the next month and the whole world will recognize and accept your conquest. Just show how feckless they really are when they inevitably can’t do it. We’ll even give you until the end of the Year. Every bit as stubborn as the fools in DC who couldn’t figure out that staying in Afghanistan for another 20 years is not a good idea nor a smart way to spend your resources.
A long time ago my uncle Herman had a dog that just would not stop chasing cars.
The neighbors were complaining about it because they were worried he might jump under the wheels and get run over.
He went to town one day and on the way back he stopped and pulled off the baby moon hubcap on his left rear wheel and stuck a cotton feed sack on it and pushed the hubcap back on.
He drove slowly past his own house and the dog gave chase. The dog of course grabbed the sack and was sent spinning into the ditch.
The dog never chased a car again, he had discovered what it actually meant to not simply chase the car but to catch it!
-Putin is the car with the sack on the wheel
-The EU is the dog
-Trump is my uncle Herman
Trump has not gone mad and has not changed his mind about the EU’s chances against Russia. He simply has had his fill of the nonsense from both the EU and Zalinsky so he decided to use sarcasm and let them catch the car :-)
They will find out, it’s a shame it has come to this but it is obvious they cannot learn the lesson any other way.
Turkey shut down a Russian jet and the Russians did absolutely nothing. Trump took out a couple dozen Russians and they did nothing.
Yes. Because Russia never does anything wrong; the whole world is always picking on poor, put-upon, downtrodden, perpetual victim Russia.
Just ask the Russians ... or their apologists and agents here ... they'll whine all about it.
Why ‘down a plane’ when NATO could take out the entire Russian air force and drone locations in a matter of minutes?
And no, it won't mean war. It'll mean the typical blister from Russia, and that will be it. War with NATO now would be the fastest route to catastrophe for Russia in Ukraine, and they know it.
What if just Poland does it?
Whose side are you on, anyway??,
I don't know why I even bothered asking - we already know the answer.
Well, not so much lately...
I thank you for the clarity of that explanation!
I'm on the side of Truth.
Unfortunately, it sometimes makes me a dissident.
Seems like the Europeans want a war.
I think we should talk them into a big war with Russia. And then not participate at all. “You’re on your own!”
two front war is a losing game buckwheat
I thought you didn’t come home and your unborn child would never know you.
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