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Trump says Ukraine can win back territory from Russia, shifting his tone on the war
CNN ^

Posted on 09/23/2025 3:37:58 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that Ukraine could restore its borders from before Russia’s invasion and that he believes NATO member countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace, escalating his rhetoric against the Kremlin as its war in Ukraine drags on. Taken together, Trump’s remarks on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly about shooting down Russian aircraft and his later post on Truth Social about Ukraine’s borders seemed to reflect a significant shift in his attitude toward Moscow and what the end of the intractable conflict might look like. His comments on Ukraine’s borders represent the first time since taking office that he’s suggested the nation could win back all of the territory that Russia has taken since 2014. He had previously suggested Ukraine would need to give up some of its territory in order to secure a peace deal. And his statement on NATO shooting down aircraft suggests a willingness to put the defense alliance in more direct conflict with Russia than merely giving weapons to Ukraine.

Also: Trump says NATO countries should shoot down Russian jets that violate airspace https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-nato-countries-should-shoot-down-russian-jets-violate-airspace

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Wow. Trump spoke like Churchill today. Excellent Mr. President! And yes... shot those Russian planes down! We all agree.
1 posted on 09/23/2025 3:37:58 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

This is part of what I voted for, just in case a war breaks out... we have the best war president, now with dept. of war.


2 posted on 09/23/2025 3:40:31 PM PDT by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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Wow. Trump spoke like Churchill today. Excellent Mr. President! And yes... shot those Russian planes down! We all agree.

So if NATO planes encroach Russian territory, Russia can shoot them down too, right?

Seems like this is a nothing-burger.

3 posted on 09/23/2025 3:40:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Russian assets and symps will see their heads exploding on this FR thread. LoL.

Still, he could switch back to his pro-Russia stance, in a New York City Minute. Prez Z wise to not put any faith in this guy, and ramp up those Polish, German, French, Dutch, Danish and other assets in-country ASAP and keep drone-hitting RU energy/transport infrastructure hard.


4 posted on 09/23/2025 3:41:25 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Pray for Jim. ***** Donate to FR (Freepathon) PS: ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭nt Happy Wed Ning. )
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To: USA-FRANCE

Putinistas are in total meltdown.


5 posted on 09/23/2025 3:41:29 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: rrrod

I can hear wailing and gnashing of teeth


6 posted on 09/23/2025 3:42:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Pray for Jim. ***** Donate to FR (Freepathon) PS: ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭nt Happy Wed Ning. )
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To: USA-FRANCE

Putinistas are in total meltdown.


7 posted on 09/23/2025 3:43:22 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: VAFreedom

Trump let them know not to expect any American troops to get involved.


8 posted on 09/23/2025 3:44:24 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

He’s mocking European NATO and Ukraine.

Tellin’ them to go ahead and shoot down those Russian fighters and keep buying weapons for Ukraine.

Hell, they could win this thing! lol


9 posted on 09/23/2025 3:44:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“ I can hear wailing and gnashing of teeth”
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LOL … I see dead people. /s


10 posted on 09/23/2025 3:46:09 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MA)
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To: Mariner

No one plays the blame game like Donald Trump

Next , President Trump is going to hit those countries buying oil from Russia with massive secondary sanctions

That will show them


11 posted on 09/23/2025 3:49:47 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

LOL...yep


12 posted on 09/23/2025 3:53:45 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Have said repeatedly, I would support Trump if he determined Ukraine should be sunk into the sea.

And I will support Trump if he now counsels it’s time to resist Russia.

The president tried to be an honest broker. He humiliated the Ukrainian president to get him in line. He offered to accept Russia’s seizure of Ukraine territory.

And sadly, he discovered Putin tried to take advantage of his honest efforts.

Trump support remains the wise path.


13 posted on 09/23/2025 3:55:05 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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“Trump let them know not to expect any American troops to get involved.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No one ever called for American boots on the ground in Ukraine. What Ukraine needed was a green light from Trump. At first, he withheld it, pressing for a ceasefire. But Putin’s blatant rejection of those peace efforts has shattered the illusion. Trump now sees the Kremlin for what it is: a corrupt, warmongering machine.


14 posted on 09/23/2025 3:57:18 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (Silence against evil isn't neutrality, it's complicity. Oppose the Iran-Russia-North Korea Alliance!)
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To: Mariner

You do know that in any military conflict, any outcome is possible.

Oh that’s right, all leftists like to chant that a war can’t possibly be won and is already lost.


15 posted on 09/23/2025 3:58:07 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“So if NATO planes encroach Russian territory, Russia can shoot them down too, right? “ if their transponders are turned off, Absolutely.
If transponders are on, a quick radio check will tell you if the planes were lost due to nav systems failures. Then escort them home.


16 posted on 09/23/2025 3:58:45 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: USA-FRANCE

nope. just a ploy to get Russia to actually negotiate.


17 posted on 09/23/2025 3:58:59 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: USA-FRANCE
Trump says farewell and good luck to all involved in NATO's Proxy war in Ukraine.
18 posted on 09/23/2025 3:59:56 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: USA-FRANCE

FAKE NEWS


19 posted on 09/23/2025 4:01:05 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Williams

“You do know that in any military conflict, any outcome is possible.”

I encourage them both to fight like there’s no tomorrow, and until they tire of dying.

That ends the war.


20 posted on 09/23/2025 4:01:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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