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Why is Sacramento spending millions on a divisive program other cities reject?
Sacramento Bee ^ | September 20, 2025 | By Robin Epley

Posted on 09/20/2025 4:07:34 PM PDT by artichokegrower

Last week, the city of Sacramento spent $2.6 million to retain the services of controversial AI technology that tracks the location of gunfire, an expense that other cities across the nation have rejected. โ€œWe believe that ShotSpotter is a crucial piece of (technology)โ€ฆ and weโ€™re seeing a positive result from the use of these dollars,โ€ said Zachary Bales, deputy chief of the Sacramento Police Department, at the city council meeting where the contract was approved.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; california; crime; sacramento; shotspotter
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More recently, a lawsuit against ShotSpotter and the city of Chicago was settled with the help of the MacArthur Justice Center, a public interest law firm that works on social justice cases across the country. In the settlement agreement, Chicago agreed that a ShotSpotter alert does not give its police justification to stop or pat down any person who happens to be near the location of an alert. Chicago canceled its contract with ShotSpotter last year and stopped using the system completely by last September.

And how has that worked out for Chicago

1 posted on 09/20/2025 4:07:34 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Follow the kickback.


2 posted on 09/20/2025 4:14:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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I thought Chicago cancelled because they were always being charged overage fees from tracking vastly more gunfire than they contracted for. ๐Ÿ˜€


3 posted on 09/20/2025 4:15:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (I pray that the sleeping giant has finally awakened and been filled with a terrible resolve.)
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Places such as Detroit that tried the gunfire location system experienced community protests because so many suspects were in black neighborhoods.

The electronic system gives the impression that nationally 52.6% of arrests for homicides in 2016 were of black suspects and about 60% of firearm victims are black people.(spoiler: That is the true result. No current data, though.)

“Gun violence is concentrated in specific, often under-resourced and racially segregated neighborhoods, which contributes to the disproportionate impact on communities of color, according to the Center for American Progress.”

Conclusion of this article below. “
The scorecard shows 99.6% of gunfire alerts were accurate in 2021 and 99.5% were accurate for the first six months of 2022.”

https://www.bridgedetroit.com/shotspotter-says-mistakes-are-rare-but-detroiters-want-more-transparency/


4 posted on 09/20/2025 4:17:37 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have ShotSpotter. I spot it and return fire with extreme prejudice. Carry, train, be aware, and be safe. Regards


5 posted on 09/20/2025 4:18:40 PM PDT by Equine1952 (MM1SS )
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Just like Buck Henry was the Father of Structure Fishing (90% of the fish are in 10% of the water), this is a tool that law enforcement can use to go where the shooting is. Follow the Science.


6 posted on 09/20/2025 4:28:39 PM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

> Follow the kickback. <

Right.

Who owns ShotSpotter? Any relatives of the governor, or of a state senator?

And more importantly, how much money are they giving to Sacramento politicians in the form of campaign contributions?

๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ

And too bad for you, California taxpayer. Just pay your taxes and shut up.


7 posted on 09/20/2025 4:30:02 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Fallout money.

wy69


8 posted on 09/20/2025 4:30:40 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: Bernard

Buck Perry.


9 posted on 09/20/2025 4:34:36 PM PDT by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: Leaning Right

We here in California like ShotSpotter

Just last night in Salinas

SALINAS, Calif. โ€”
Two people were killed Friday night in a shooting, according to the Salinas Police Department.

Around 11:00 p.m. Friday, officers responded to a ShotSpotter activation in the 300 block of Cross Avenue.


10 posted on 09/20/2025 5:13:06 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Why is Sacramento spending millions on a divisive program other cities reject?

Cuz, it’s East Beijing.

( Formerly known as Sacramento)


11 posted on 09/20/2025 5:20:20 PM PDT by cuz1961
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> We here in California like ShotSpotter <

I understand that such devices can quickly give police the location of a shooting.

Now here is the key question: Does it help in actually catching the shooters? Or are the shooters gone by the time the police arrive?

I donโ€™t know the answer to that. So Iโ€™ll await a post from someone more knowledgeable than I am. ๐Ÿ™‚


12 posted on 09/20/2025 5:20:23 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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"...some of the harshest critics of ShotSpotter say the technology can also create victims: Black and brown people, who have been swept up by the police chasing alerts."

Funny, black and brown people in DC seem to be happy with the greatly increased policing making the city a lot safer.

13 posted on 09/20/2025 5:37:34 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Does it help in actually catching the shooters? Or are the shooters gone by the time the police arrive?
That's not as important as the response time for possibly saving the lives of people on the receiving end of the shots fired.
14 posted on 09/20/2025 5:49:53 PM PDT by lewislynn (If you think Elon Musk is a genius, you haven't seen his "truck".)
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> That’s not as important as the response time for possibly saving the lives of people on the receiving end of the shots fired. <

Fair point.


15 posted on 09/20/2025 5:58:37 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: artichokegrower

Looks to me more like an easy means of diverting police on wild goose chases.


16 posted on 09/20/2025 6:02:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: gundog

Hey, I was close. I remembered the Buck part.


17 posted on 09/20/2025 6:10:12 PM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Follow the kickback.”

If you mean kickback for REMOVING the system, I might believe it. But the big problem with Shot Spotter is that it actually works, so its results are a bit too ‘diverse’ for today’s ‘community leaders’.


18 posted on 09/20/2025 6:26:18 PM PDT by BobL
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Now here is the key question: Does it help in actually catching the shooters? Or are the shooters gone by the time the police arrive?

Both. It depends on 1) how close police are and how quickly they can respond, and 2) how quickly shooters leave the area. Sometimes they get there more quickly than they do other times.

19 posted on 09/20/2025 7:35:17 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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Shotspotter was cancelled in liberal s hole because muh racism.


20 posted on 09/20/2025 9:40:05 PM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. D)
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