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35 shot, 5 dead, in Chicago amid Trump's threat to deploy National Guard
ABC News via Yahoo ^ | August 31st, 2025 | BILL HUTCHINSON

Posted on 08/31/2025 5:02:37 PM PDT by Mariner

At least five people have been killed and 30 others injured in shootings across Chicago over Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims wounded late Saturday night, according to police.

The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.

Trump on Saturday sent a warning to the Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker in a post on his social media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

Illinois Gov. Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is un-American."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; chicongo; crime; letsgobrandon
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To: Mariner

Thousands of MAGA hats need to be dropped off in small stores in the South Side of Chicago. Tell the owners they can have the hats if they sell them for a buck each...

Let’s red hat the town.


61 posted on 08/31/2025 7:58:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Time to drop off a few thousand red MAGA hats to Chicago's South side... <I><B><big><center> )
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To: MRadtke

“The Second City Cop blog will sure be running with this one...”
They are the go to guys if you really want to know what is really happening in Chitcago.


62 posted on 08/31/2025 8:02:38 PM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Mariner
Both Pritzker and Johnson are committed, woke, racial Marxists. True believers.

With no conscience. At all.

(Just like Cuomo, just like Hillary, n'est ce pas?)

63 posted on 08/31/2025 8:15:29 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: lewislynn

The gang battles and rioting can deprive innocents and guilty folks of their federal civil rights.
Things like false imprisonment, battery, assault, resisting arrest, especially if against a member of a protected class..these kind of charges (except resisting arrest) have been filed against police officers for quite a while...


64 posted on 08/31/2025 9:07:34 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: Mariner

The Leftist cities like Chicago are protecting the criminals. Follow the money. The drug cartels have got the city leaders by the nose. The drug cartels have turned the users into crazed criminals who do anything to pay for their habit.


65 posted on 08/31/2025 11:58:09 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: blackdog

“How can Chicago (and other Bluetopias) maintain any bond ratings and insurance? One would think that this crap would be costing them bigly?”

Who are these “them”? Certainly not the politicians. Chicago is in more debt than all but a few entire US states. High interest rates on loans? No problemo!


66 posted on 09/01/2025 4:21:54 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, it is near the end of the day)
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To: Leaning Right

Interesting point. But the Feds went after Al Capone for tax evasion. And they went after other gangsters for violating federal Prohibition laws.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...
Yes, I was anticipating your response, which of course is true. But think about the Feds pursuit for decades of the Mafia in New York. The wars between the families there resulted in shootouts in the streets all over town. Wasn’t that a problem for city and state law enforcement to handle, and if so, why was it necessary for the Feds to be involved?


67 posted on 09/01/2025 5:06:25 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (President Trump is America's long-awaited SUPREME Commander in Chief. Deus Hoc Vult!)
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To: JZelle

Better idea use Shitcago as a open bioweapon test range with live weapons


68 posted on 09/01/2025 7:29:16 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & subvertion )
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To: Mariner

The article just changed the shot number to 57.


69 posted on 09/01/2025 8:58:55 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mariner; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

70 posted on 09/01/2025 9:00:25 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: frank ballenger
" The Dems are trying to insult the law enforcement officers, falsify the data, pressure victims to not go to court and saying to just get used to the killings."

You just described Mayor Paul Young, and DA Steve Mulroy, of Memphis, TN.

Armed carjacking get plead down to simple assault. Armed robbery gets plead down to trespass. Arson doesn't even get a look. Shooting up the streets gets plead down to a misdemeanor.

71 posted on 09/01/2025 9:09:31 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: Mariner

“At least five people have been killed and 30 others injured in shootings across Chicago over Labor Day weekend”. Nothing to see here ladies and gentlemen, just another weekend in the combat zone, the free-fire zone.


72 posted on 09/01/2025 9:51:34 AM PDT by kawhill ("Time will say nothing but I told you so." Auden)
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To: Mariner

UPDATE:

Chicago shootings: At least 52 shot, 7 fatally, in Labor Day weekend gun violence, police say

https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-labor-day-weekend-least-32-shot-3-fatally-gun-violence-city-police-department-says/17701051/


73 posted on 09/01/2025 10:42:08 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: blackdog

The voters there must be so proud. /S


74 posted on 09/01/2025 11:50:22 AM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: Mariner

This has been going on for years all the way back to Daley as Mayor, it’s just gotten worse. I see the stats, now all of sudden people are noticing this?

heyjackass.com go there and see the stats daily and hourly.


75 posted on 09/01/2025 11:54:28 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Mariner

I’m so old that I can remember when Chicago was a fun, exciting place to visit for a weekend. Museums, SHOPPING, live theater, comedy clubs, excellent eats, DANCING - Chi-Town had it ALL! And I was never shot, stabbed, raped or robbed! Not even ONCE!

‘The People’s Republik of Milwaukeestan’ (where I grew up) is also having a ‘fire for effect’ Labor Day Weekend - though those dumb@ss ‘gang bangers’ never seem to hit much - even after firing off 100’s rounds on auto!


76 posted on 09/01/2025 2:29:09 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Mariner

More and more, mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago has the look and feel of a Somali warlord.


77 posted on 09/01/2025 3:11:15 PM PDT by citizen (A transgender male competing against women may be male, but he's no man.)
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To: Mariner

Here is Grok’s answer about the legality of Trump deploying the National Guard in Chicago:

It doesn’t seem President Trump can do this, no matter how bad the crime is.

What is the President’s authority to deploy national guard troops in Chicago?

The President’s authority to deploy National Guard troops in Chicago, or any state, is limited and governed by specific legal frameworks, primarily the U.S. Constitution, the Posse Comitatus Act, the Insurrection Act, and Title 10 and Title 32 of the U.S. Code. Here’s a concise overview based on the legal principles and recent context:General Authority: State Control: National Guard units are typically under the control of state governors, who can deploy them for state-specific purposes, such as responding to natural disasters or civil unrest. For a president to deploy the National Guard in a state like Illinois, the troops must be federalized, which requires specific legal justification.

Federalization: The President can federalize the National Guard under certain conditions, primarily through Title 10 of the U.S. Code or the Insurrection Act. However, this authority is not absolute and is subject to legal constraints.

Key Legal Frameworks:Posse Comitatus Act (1878): This law generally prohibits the use of federal military forces, including federalized National Guard troops, for domestic law enforcement unless expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress. Deploying the National Guard for routine crime control in Chicago, absent a clear emergency, could violate this act.

Insurrection Act: The President can invoke the Insurrection Act to deploy federalized National Guard or active-duty military to suppress an insurrection, rebellion, or when a state is unable to enforce federal laws. This requires a clear and present crisis, such as widespread violence or rebellion, which critics argue does not currently exist in Chicago, given reported declines in crime (e.g., homicides down 32% from last year).

Title 10, Section 12406: This allows the President to federalize the National Guard to protect federal property or enforce federal law (e.g., immigration enforcement) if a state cannot manage a disturbance. However, this does not permit the Guard to engage in general local law enforcement, such as routine crime-fighting.

Title 32: Under Title 32, National Guard troops remain under state control but can be funded federally. The President can use this to deploy troops for specific missions, but they cannot perform law enforcement duties unless authorized by other laws, and state consent is typically required.

Recent Context and Legal Challenges:Reports indicate President Trump has considered deploying National Guard troops to Chicago to address crime, following deployments in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles. However, Illinois Governor JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson have stated there is no emergency justifying such a deployment, calling it illegal and unconstitutional.

A federal judge recently ruled that a similar deployment in Los Angeles in June 2025 violated the Posse Comitatus Act, as troops were used for law enforcement purposes like crowd control and traffic blockades. This ruling suggests potential legal challenges if the President attempts a similar action in Chicago without clear justification under the Insurrection Act or other legal authority.

Chicago’s leaders argue that crime rates have significantly decreased (e.g., homicides down 30%, shootings down nearly 40%), undermining claims of a crisis necessitating federal intervention. They also highlight that deploying the National Guard could inflame tensions and undermine community trust, rather than address root causes like housing or education.

Practical Limitations:Governor’s Consent: In most cases, deploying the National Guard in a state requires the governor’s request or consent. Illinois Governor Pritzker has explicitly stated no such request has been made, and he opposes federal intervention.

Legal Pushback: Chicago and Illinois officials have vowed to pursue legal action if troops are deployed without state consent, citing violations of state sovereignty and constitutional norms. Previous deployments, like in Los Angeles, faced lawsuits, and similar challenges are likely in Chicago.

Scope of Deployment: Even if federalized, National Guard troops cannot legally engage in routine policing (e.g., arrests, patrols) unless the Insurrection Act is invoked or a specific federal mission (like protecting federal property) is defined.

Presidential Claims vs. Legal Reality:President Trump has asserted broad authority to deploy the National Guard, claiming he can “do anything I want” as president. However, legal experts argue this view overstates his powers, as deployments must comply with statutory limits. For example, deploying troops to Chicago for general crime control without a governor’s request or a clear emergency would likely face significant legal challenges, as seen in the Los Angeles case.

The President’s authority is stronger in Washington, D.C., due to its status as a federal territory, but this does not extend to states like Illinois without meeting specific legal thresholds.

Conclusion: The President’s authority to deploy National Guard troops in Chicago is constrained by federal laws like the Posse Comitatus Act and the need for a clear legal basis, such as the Insurrection Act or Title 10 provisions. Without a governor’s request or a demonstrable emergency (e.g., insurrection or inability to enforce federal law), such a deployment would likely be deemed illegal and face legal challenges, as seen in recent court rulings. Illinois officials’ opposition and Chicago’s declining crime rates further weaken the case for federal intervention, making any deployment a contentious and legally fraught action.


78 posted on 09/02/2025 6:11:48 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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