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Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war
Salon ^ | August 26, 2025 | David Daley

Posted on 08/28/2025 8:44:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.

Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.

How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.

Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.

Democrats have more limited options. In California, voters will be asked this fall to suspend the state’s independent redistricting commission and allow the legislature to enact a new map that adds five blue seats in retaliation for the Texas gerrymander. If voters approve — and that’s not guaranteed — the two maps would cancel each other out.

But what’s step two? The trouble for Democrats is they have nowhere else to target if Republicans keep on escalating. Blue-state governors are talking tough and insisting they are at war, but that rhetoric is no match for reality. Democrats simply...

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1 posted on 08/28/2025 8:44:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If Pennsylvania gets its cr@p together and get 2 more House seats and the Governors mansion, they could, (if not being total panty wastes), add to the R total!!


2 posted on 08/28/2025 8:47:15 AM PDT by bantam
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They only care about winning the gerrymandering PR war.


3 posted on 08/28/2025 8:50:27 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They can win, and they have moderate degrees of success with it in the past.

It is the same old stand-by for leftists when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in democrat states that conservative judges wont do in red states.


4 posted on 08/28/2025 8:57:07 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The democrats have already gerrymandered the limit and there’s nothing left ?


5 posted on 08/28/2025 9:09:08 AM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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To: butlerweave

My pants are creaming reading this article.


6 posted on 08/28/2025 9:15:14 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: butlerweave

Exactly right. Ultra blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.


7 posted on 08/28/2025 9:19:04 AM PDT by Bobbyvotes (Term limits will get rid of corrupt politicians faster than delivery of Jimmy Johns sandwich)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Brazen” is not an adjective I associate with the GOP.


8 posted on 08/28/2025 9:23:18 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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The article basicly says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan.

It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be.


9 posted on 08/28/2025 9:53:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah...and he actually says the truth. The dems already did what the GOP is doing now.

“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”


10 posted on 08/28/2025 9:57:01 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The good news for the Democrats is that math is racist—so they can keep on larping away....

Fight, fight fight!

Lol.


11 posted on 08/28/2025 10:02:07 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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and the REAL Democrat Armageddon arrives when the Trump Administration’s upcoming census excludes all non-citizens ...


12 posted on 08/28/2025 10:08:35 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The states are allowed district anyway they want. The only restriction (due to a Supreme Court ruling) is that every district must be numerical the same (or close to it). The one man one vote rule.

California has already been sliced and diced. The only thing the Democrats can do is redraw the lines to take the Republicans from the Central Valley and northern California and add them to existing Democrat districts. If it was not for the one man one vote rule it would be easy, but since most districts are Democrats when you add Republican voters you dilute the number of Democrat voters and if it is a close race the Republican could win in was once a secure Democrat seat.

So they have two problems, one get the voters to agree to the change, and two trying to divide the pie so they control everything. Not going to be easy and in today’s world it will end up in court.


13 posted on 08/28/2025 10:14:45 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I’ll take a wait and see...)
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Jerry Seinfeld graphic
“Aww, that’s a shame”


14 posted on 08/28/2025 10:52:46 AM PDT by citizen (A transgender male competing against women may be male, but he's no man.)
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...when the Trump Administration’s upcoming census excludes all non-citizens
I'm hoping the Supremes do exclude them.
15 posted on 08/28/2025 10:58:59 AM PDT by citizen (A transgender male competing against women may be male, but he's no man.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Dems already benefit from gerrymandering, often via court orders based on the Civil Rights Act. These contorted the maps in vrious southern states to assure election of racial minority, i.e., Democrat, candidates. The Dems can’t squeeze more out of this than they already have, without losing electoral majorities elsewhere — but there is lots of room for Republicans to gain from un-gerrymandering. What a shame.

And Californians seem displeased with the Dem’s trying to undo the Constitutional measure that took the districting power away from corrupt officials and gave it to something akin to the People.


16 posted on 08/28/2025 11:33:29 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Thank you for referencing that article E. Pluribus Unum.

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war


Regarding gerrymandering, there never seems to be any mention in mainstream media of possible MAJOR problems between gerrymandering and Section 2 of the 14th Amendment (14A), that section a penalty for states where ballot box fraud has occurred.

From related threads...

Here's a general definition of gerrymandering.

The manipulation may involve "cracking" (diluting the voting power of the opposing party's supporters across many districts [all emphases added]) or "packing" (diluting the voting power of the opposing party's supporters across many districts). Gerrymandering can also be used to protect incumbents. Wayne Dawkins, a professor at Morgan State University, describes it as politicians picking their voters instead of voters picking their politicians.Gerrymandering (Non-FR)

Let's contrast gerrymandering with the zero tolerance, "hair trigger" wording of Section 2 of 14A, misguided Democrats ultimately positioning themselves to actually lose House seats in the 2026 primary elections for unconstitutionally weakening the voting power of Trump supporters imo.

Excerpted from 14A:

While elite, lawless Democrats continue to shoot their feet off, gerrymandering an example imo, Trump supporters need to concentrate on a related issue imo, preserving Trump's legacy, starting with the 2026 midterm elections.

Trump's red tsunami of supporters, evidenced by his record-breaking win in 2024 elections, need to permanently preserve his legacy by making the repeal of the 16th Amendment (16A; direct taxes) the main talking point of 2026 elections. More specifically, Trump supporters need to primary all candidates for state and federal public offices who refuse to publicly promise to support a resolution to the states in January 2027 for a new amendment to the Constitution that repeals that amendment.

The 16th Amendment is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for organized crime, front-ended by the deep state Congress's ongoing abuse of that amendment imo.

Consider that a resolution to repeal 16A was introduced as recently as 2021, but was unsurprisingly ignored.

We'll call the repeal amendment Trump's Boston Tea Party II Amendment.

The 17th Amendment, popular voting for federal senators, needs to disappear too.

Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)

Once unconstitutional federal taxing and spend is stopped, the states will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues that they probably won't know what to do with imo, healthcare, including taking care of the poor, and education, on the short list of priorities.

17 posted on 08/28/2025 2:59:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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