Posted on 08/01/2025 10:51:31 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Nvidia chips do not contain "backdoors" allowing remote access, the US tech giant has said, after Beijing summoned company representatives to discuss "serious security issues".
The California-based company is a world-leading producer of AI semiconductors, and this month became the first company to hit US$4 trillion in market value. But it has become entangled in trade tensions between China and the United States, and Washington effectively restricts which chips Nvidia can export to China on national security grounds.
"Cybersecurity is critically important to us. Nvidia does not have 'backdoors' in our chips that would give anyone a remote way to access or control them," Nvidia said in a statement Thursday (Jul 31).
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Projection.
Projection.
Liars.
TRANSLATION: "Where's our backdoor?"
It’s a possibility
Perhaps NVIDIA doesn’t, but it must be easy to hide functionality in a million lines of machine language or half a billion transistors. Any device with chips hold the possibility of secret functionality.
Nvidia would have to make a lot of assumptions to think their chips, outside of the motherboard BIOS or the network card/chips could be able to send or receive network commands or calls unless the OS cooperated. But yeah, this is projection on China’s part, they sort of showed their hand by bringing this up.
Our concern with US Government-owned Chinese PCs phoning home (thanks to the Bush Admin) was chips or embedded code in the BIOS or hardware remote access, like Dell’s iDRAC, that could access the network hardware even if the OS was safe or not even running—not to and from the GPU. It’s not impossible but any other hardware trying to access the network is pretty difficult unless you pwn the OS or BIOS as well.
You can certainly believe that. No way in the world would an American company of that size actually fight for the United States. However, you can’t believe that with Chinese product.
Nvidia, selling its most advanced AI chip to China with 47’s blessing. China, where new coal and nuclear power plants come online every week.
47 is the same guy that wants to make the US the AI capital of the world, where power plants are being torn down to make way for useless wind and solar plants. Next, will 47 allow ASML Holding [ AMSL ] to sell their most advanced photolithography machines to China?
Talk about being hung by one’s own rope, and why is 47 taking a leaf out of B. Clinton’s playbook?
...not selling their *most* advanced chips to China, only reduced performance versions.
Thy are selling the H20 AI chip series which is all the Chinese need to pull way ahead in the AI race. The amounts are likely to be in the neighborhood of one million chips to start.
They have the power grid to use them immediately, while the US power grid is fragile and has yet to be built out - a process taking many years. Foolish move by 47.
Just about every computer component is sourced from the East. I read an article about how a lot of the computer equipment associated with solar panels, windmills were built in China effectively giving them a backdoor into our grid.
I remember reading an article in Time back in the 1990s about how the NSA was building all of their computer equipment exactly for the backdoor reason.
yes, and the H20 is not the highest performing chip, H100 and Blackwell are. Those are still restricted.
That the Chinese don’t have their own chip that is anywhere near that of anything nVidia has means they’re nowhere close to ‘pulling away’ in the AI race.
Deepseek is open source, and just software. It still needs our HW.
I’m not ignoring the China threat in AI. ...but let’s not get too overboard.
It’s OK for China though.
Given the alleged back doors in the chip, that's a good thing.
Crunching language at higher speed is not going to pull China ahead. They showed the opposite, they were able to catch up without a ridiculous amount of crunching.
Intel had backdoors for firmware updates for decades.
I suspect Nvidia also.
“It’s a possibility”
Not just a possibility... You can absolutely bet on it. Every new chip is made with a backdoor. These US companies want to spy on us just as much as China would. Remember recently a truck load of these was stolen and ended up in China? Well they are back engineering those and probably absolutely know there are backdoors.
Just because China claimed it doesn’t negate the backdoors being real. Big tech spies... And they spy on EVERYONE with no restraint. How anyone could even consider giving Nvidia the benefit of the doubt I have no clue.
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