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The gerrymander in California is outrageous.
X ^ | Jul 30, 2025 | JD Vance

Posted on 07/30/2025 10:43:57 AM PDT by george76

The gerrymander in California is outrageous..

Of their 52 congressional districts, 9 of them are Republican. That means 17 percent of their delegation is Republican when Republicans regularly win 40 percent of the vote in that state.

How can this possibly be allowed?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cheating; democrats; elections; gerrymander; rigging; tampering; vance; vote

1 posted on 07/30/2025 10:43:57 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The California Redistricting Commissioners, 2020:

https://wedrawthelines.ca.gov/2020commissioners/

That’s how.


2 posted on 07/30/2025 10:49:28 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: george76

He’s right. In the past, Republicans and the conservative media cried about things like this in Blue states and the Dems’ answer was basically F.U. The answer now, under the Trump Administration is to gerrymander Red states to be just as pro-Republican. If we have 80% of Congressional districts in Red states going Republican, we’ll have a Red Wave every year even if 49% of the public votes Dem in those states. Is it fair? I don’t care. I’m tired of the old GOP model of crying about fairness and getting their clocks cleaned.


3 posted on 07/30/2025 10:50:33 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: george76
One solution would be to make this a law: No district can be more than three times as long as it is wide at its narrowest point. That would prevent districts like this one:

I sure hope the Supreme Court follows me here on Free Republic.
🙂

4 posted on 07/30/2025 10:57:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: george76

The common response to idiotic leftist policy in California is “enjoy the suck - that’s what they voted for.”

Given what we have learned over the last 10 years, I don’t believe that any more. It’s not who votes, its not even who counts the votes - its who sets up the voting system.

given things like mass mail-in voting, unverified ballots, drive-up registration, no ID voting, automatic registration, ballot-harvesting, dominion machines, gerrymandering, taxpayer-funded government unions in elections - we can say the system is RIGGED in 100 different ways

The fraud and ultimate result is baked into the system.


5 posted on 07/30/2025 11:03:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: george76

“Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.”

(or Loonytown)


6 posted on 07/30/2025 11:03:34 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Thank you, Trump, Musk, Leavitt....)
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To: Regulator

The commission isnt perfect, but it’s better than the outrageous rat redistricting that preceded it. There are no districts like the one from another state depicting in a different reply. As much as possible districts are to be of regular shape. The problem is the heavily rat cities. The high populations = many districts. It’s essentially impossible to draw republicans majority districts in those areas. Also, republicans outside the cities are dispersed. The first congressional district, essentially a north to south rectangle, is 300 miles long, from the Oregon border to North Auburn in the central Sierra foothills


7 posted on 07/30/2025 11:04:59 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (24 years on Free Republic, 12/10/24! More than 10,500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: george76

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering


Part of the problem was created by the Supreme Court. Some states had districts based on geography not population, so farm communities would form a district and urban areas would be in their own district.

Now gerrymanders goes back to the early 1800s and it has always been a state issue, but when the court ruled each district had to have the same number of people, it opened it up to some weird districts.

It would take (in my opinion) a Constitution Amendment to change and I doubt any state would agree to that.

So, it is as it is and will remain as it is.


8 posted on 07/30/2025 11:07:10 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I’ll take a wait and see...)
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To: george76

A Congressional Research Service report describes the rules surrounding the redistricting process in this way:

“Redistricting is a state process governed by federal law. Much of this law is judicially imposed because, in 1929, Congress let lapse its standards requiring districts to be made up of “contiguous and compact territory and containing as nearly as practicable an equal number of inhabitants.” If Congress chooses to legislate again in this area, its authority will come from Article I, Section 4 of the Constitution, granting the authority to Congress to change state laws pertaining to congressional elections.”

Congress screwed this up in 1929.

This should be the standard.

“contiguous and compact territory and containing as nearly as practicable an equal number of inhabitants.”


9 posted on 07/30/2025 11:08:26 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: Steven Scharf

https://redistrictingonline.org/basics-redistrictingprinciples/

Forgot to cite my source.


10 posted on 07/30/2025 11:10:05 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: george76

California is a poster child for the ills of One Party Rule.

Once prosperous and beautiful, it is now sordid and corrupt.


11 posted on 07/30/2025 11:18:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: george76; All
Thank you for referencing that article george76.

"The gerrymander in California is outrageous."


As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

Corrupt political party gerrymandering is all about preserving deep state Congress's abuse of its 16th Amendment powers (16A; direct taxes) imo.

Getting rid of 16A would at least get rid of a lot of federal government corruption imo. That's's why Trump supporters need to make getting rid of that amendment the main talking point of 2026 midterm elections.

Getting rid of 16A is best way to preserve Trump's legacy imo.

The 17th Amendment, popular voting for federal senators, needs to disappear too.

12 posted on 07/30/2025 12:22:25 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Leaning Right

Thank you for posting this Congressional map. Gerrymandering is as bad in Illinois as it is in California and may be possibly worse.

Allegedly, Nancy Pelosi encouraged Illinois legislators to create ridiculous maps to benefit Democrats. In 2010, the Illinois Congressional Delegation was (barely) a Republican majority. Now, the GOP is down to three seats statewide.

The insane map that you have chosen was created to make sure a Latino was elected to Congress. The map was challenged all the way to SCOTUS which returned it to the US District Court with instructions. The local judge ignored SCOTUS and bowed to the Democrats. Luis Guiterrez and Jesus “Chuy” Garcia have held this “head phones” seat since its creation.


13 posted on 07/30/2025 12:25:08 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: george76

Since they’ve rigged things so they have a one party state legislature they can do any damn thing they want, right?


14 posted on 07/30/2025 12:54:16 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man, but it's ok---- I wasn't married to it.)
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To: george76

Democrat voters are over 46% of the registered voters in Texas. Should they hold half of the Texas seats in Congress?

That’s how.


15 posted on 07/30/2025 12:59:41 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king
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To: george76

They say red states gerrymander. But blue states like NY NJ and Illinois have some of the worst gerrymandered districts in the country. Illinois’ fourth district which gets as wide as half a city block in parts is the shape of a horse shoe, just to stop Hispanics and blacks in Chicago from voting against one another. Thereby assuring Hispanics will own one district.


16 posted on 07/30/2025 1:23:42 PM PDT by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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To: george76

The major difference between Democrats and Republicans when they gerrymander is Republicans do it with the legislature while Democrats have their maggot activist Democrat appellate judges join the party with their legislature in carving up the turkey


17 posted on 07/30/2025 2:19:37 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: BenLurkin

NY and MA are vying for first place n that.


18 posted on 07/30/2025 3:33:45 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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