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President Trump Risks Falling into the Amnesty Trap
Center For Immigration Studies ^ | 10 July 2025 | Ronald W. Mortensen

Posted on 07/14/2025 10:23:38 AM PDT by zeestephen

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"The president knew going in that mass deportations would be a huge challenge. However, he promised to put America and Americans First. Therefore, he must make the well-being of American citizens his top priority, while holding illegal aliens and their employers fully accountable for the harm that they have done and are doing to millions of innocent American men, women, and children."

1 posted on 07/14/2025 10:23:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

That and the Epstein list threaten to trip up his good work. We used to say in the Army that one aw sh** wipes out 10 attaboys.


2 posted on 07/14/2025 10:26:06 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: zeestephen

Yeah it screams trap.


3 posted on 07/14/2025 10:26:31 AM PDT by iamgalt ( )
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To: zeestephen
Rush once said, quoting some Dim strategist, that Trump supporters take Trump seriously but not literally, while Trump haters take Trump literally but not seriously.

It may be that some of us Trump supporters are starting to change that and overreact to every statement Trump makes, even though one reason we like him is he prefers to "talk out loud" instead of speak only prepared political-speak.

4 posted on 07/14/2025 10:26:47 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: zeestephen
To my mind, there is only one means sufficient to collect 40mm illegals for deportation: Call up the unorganized militia and pay them via a bounty system with heavy penalties for false arrest and imprisonment. Offer training courses in making a proper arrest online.

With a system like that, the self-deportation rate would be astonishing. At that point, a reworked vetting system for legal immigration should be ready to implement, lest the impacts on production, real estate, and therefore banking take us down with them.

5 posted on 07/14/2025 10:28:11 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: zeestephen

He’s already done it. The full Jorge W. Bush.

And they are trying hard now to distract us from it with war and investigations.

But they got us.


6 posted on 07/14/2025 10:29:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: zeestephen

I remember when abortion on demand was decriminalized by Roe v Wade.

Quite of few folk in the Republican wing of the uniparty acquiesced by saying abortion should be legal but rare.

What a slippery slope that was.

Same deal here.

The Devil is in the details.

Always has been, always will be.

Just say NO.

No amnesty period.

End of discussion.

There’s going to be folk saying there are instances where amnesty should be provided.

And if that is allowed the Devil has his foot in the door.

It’s slippery slope leading down, down, down.


7 posted on 07/14/2025 10:37:41 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: zeestephen

ASSIGN WELFARE & MEDICAID PEOPLE TO WORK IN THE HOTELS & FARMS..

GIVE THEM A CHOICE-—BUT HALT THEIR MEDICAID UNTIL THEY CHOOSE & THEY MUST STICK WITH THE WORK.

THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO ACTUAL CRIMINALS.

THEY NEED TO BE INCARCERATED...


8 posted on 07/14/2025 10:53:43 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: zeestephen

> he is now proposing a qualified form of amnesty for illegal aliens and their employers <

One of Trump’s many tasks is to hold the MAGA movement together for JD Vance in 2028. Cute little amnesty carve-outs sure won’t help with that.

Especially when we then hear about those illegals committing terrible crimes. MAGA is the best path going forward. But morale matters in any army.


9 posted on 07/14/2025 10:55:36 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: zeestephen

There are enough really bad criminals to go after...but it slows things down.


10 posted on 07/14/2025 10:57:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: zeestephen

REALLY?
And by this time next month the Epstein “scandal” will be as fresh in people’s minds as the Texas floods.


11 posted on 07/14/2025 11:36:50 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: zeestephen

There are millions of people in the world ready to ‘pick lur crops’ etc then GO BACK HOME.

If Amnesty is granted it’s a sign the Deep State has figured Trump out and are buttering him up effectively...


12 posted on 07/14/2025 11:40:49 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats judge themselves by their 'intentions' NOT by their results. It's one reason they fail.)
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To: zeestephen

nonsense. just formulate a GuestWorker program like we used to have - we knew who workers were and they returned to home country when not working.we don’t need to reinvent the wheel.


13 posted on 07/14/2025 11:45:19 AM PDT by avital2
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To: Tell It Right
It may be that some of us Trump supporters ...

I don't think of them as Trump supporters. President Trump faced a lot of such supporters in his first term, but that was before the attempted assassinations and unprecedented political comeback. Hang on for the ride and pray that God will be with him.

Isaiah 45:

Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:
And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

14 posted on 07/14/2025 11:48:38 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.=)
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To: zeestephen

“hospitality”

Trump National Golf Club Hudson Valley 178 Stormville Rd, Hopewell Junction, NY 12533

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Trump+National+Golf+Club+Hudson+Valley/@41.6047971,-74.0248727,11z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x89dd466e0d09cc79:0xaf34ba4659d206f1!8m2!3d41.571929!4d-73.760938!16s%2Fg%2F1th7zblf?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Newburgh and Poughkeepsie are nearby.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Trump+National+Golf+Club+Colts+Neck/@40.2777632,-74.2487383,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x89c22c8603b068e1:0x1bee438940742898!8m2!3d40.2777632!4d-74.1783089!16s%2Fm%2F04zh_ps?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

There are people in Freehold, New Jersey willing to work:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Trump+National+Golf+Club+Philadelphia/@39.8141364,-75.0946772,13z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x89c6d2fae06c2de1:0xb80304142b4a6ecb!8m2!3d39.787628!4d-75.004335!16s%2Fm%2F04yj6qk?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Philadelphia isn’t “closed”.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Trump+National+Golf+Club+Washington+DC/@39.0382563,-77.39334,14z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x89b630cff7eacf01:0x946f22a03bb13b5e!8m2!3d39.0524549!4d-77.3474581!16s%2Fg%2F11btxknw0d?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Very populous Sterling, Virginia is not far away.


15 posted on 07/14/2025 11:54:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Carry_Okie

“To my mind, there is only one means sufficient to collect 40mm illegals for deportation: Call up the unorganized militia and pay them via a bounty system with heavy penalties for false arrest and imprisonment. Offer training courses in making a proper arrest online.”

Dear Male Ukrainian Citizen:

Spasibo for enlisting in Ukrainian Army.

If you wish to avoid death, round up ten replacements weekly in USA of invaders of that country.

Your country needs invaders!

Moscow 2026! Moscow 2026!

Z


16 posted on 07/14/2025 12:04:10 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: zeestephen

The invaders have been invited in by:
1. Democratic politicians who would effectively disenfranchise us,
2. businessmen who resent the American citizens who quite reasonably want to get paid a living wage to have a comfortable living and who would kick those American citizen to the curb to:
a. make a little extra profit for themselves
b. secure the pick of the females for themselves.

These politicians and businessmen would make my life a living hell.

I say to Hell with such politicians, businessmen and their invader helpers.


17 posted on 07/14/2025 12:10:44 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: 9YearLurker

Things have changed and now Mexico is sending its best.


18 posted on 07/14/2025 12:40:25 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Don’t want to hurt no kangaroos )
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To: Lisbon1940

God help them if those are their best!


19 posted on 07/14/2025 12:58:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lisbon1940

(We’re totally porked with them here and being given amnesty by Trump and Congress.)


20 posted on 07/14/2025 12:59:08 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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