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Fuel to engines cut off before Air India crash, preliminary report says
BBC ^ | July 12, 2025 | Jessica Rawnsley

Posted on 07/12/2025 5:16:46 AM PDT by jerod

Fuel to the engines of the Air India plane involved in a deadly crash was cut off moments after take-off, a preliminary investigation report has found.

In recovered cockpit voice recordings, the report said one of the pilots can be heard asking "why did you cut off?" - to which the other pilot replied he "did not do so".

The London-bound Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crashed less than a minute after taking off on 12 June from Ahmedabad airport in western India, killing 260 people, most of them passengers. One British national miraculously survived the crash.

The investigation led by India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) is expected to produce a more detailed report in 12 months...

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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So... Pilot error... Boeing is sighing with a big relief.

Previous to this disaster... This aircraft had an excellent accident record.

1 posted on 07/12/2025 5:16:46 AM PDT by jerod
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To: jerod

I would have thought this might have been part of the Takeoff Config Warning System checks

Guess not?

Maybe that only has to do with flaps, etc. (flight surfaces only?)


2 posted on 07/12/2025 5:20:09 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: jerod
Check the controls for fingerprints. Look for the first officer's fingerprints on fuel cutoff controls. He seems to be the coolie who queered the engines. There are millions of converts to Islam with Hindi names. This was Jihad in action.

3 posted on 07/12/2025 5:24:12 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: jerod
Pilot error or pilot suicide.

Related:https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4328194/posts

4 posted on 07/12/2025 5:25:45 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: jerod

Never put the fuel cut off switch right next to the built-in samosa maker.


5 posted on 07/12/2025 5:27:14 AM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой)
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To: jerod

As the video explains, switches are virtually impossible to operate by accident. Were switched to OFF just after the plane rotated and lifted off, because the computer was in “Air” mode, meaning the wheels were off the ground (this is controlled by sensors in the landing gear).

Another video explained that, after the switches were moved to OFF, one pilot asked the other “Why did you do that?”, to which he replied “I didn’t”.

Switches were moved back to ON and engines began to relight, but it was too late.


6 posted on 07/12/2025 5:28:28 AM PDT by motor_racer ("We're gonna reward our friends and we're gonna punish our enemies" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Apparatchik
Oops!


7 posted on 07/12/2025 5:31:53 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Apparatchik
I agree. Warming the samosas should be left to the head stewardess only. That is her job, that and making sure the lid on the garam masala is secure before takeoff.

8 posted on 07/12/2025 5:32:56 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: jerod
It is my understanding that there is a cockpit video recorder too. Was that recovered?

9 posted on 07/12/2025 5:35:26 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: jerod

Wait until the final report(s). We can be damn sure that the Indian government....which is in charge of the investigation...will somehow try to blame Boeing.If they do the US report will refute that if doing so fits with the facts.


10 posted on 07/12/2025 5:38:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: motor_racer

“one pilot asked the other ‘Why did you do that?’, to which he replied ‘I didn’t’.”

Was there another person in the cockpit?

Could the switches have been placed in an intermediate position that could change to ‘off’?

Is there any other switching system that works similarly in the type of airplane?

Was either pilot certified on another type of plane that would require a similar switch to ‘off’ movement during a takeoff?

Did the pilots get enough rest before the flight?


11 posted on 07/12/2025 5:38:42 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Yo-Yo

Yes, this looks like a deliberate suicide/murder.


12 posted on 07/12/2025 5:39:15 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: jerod

IMO, the copilot couldn’t have flipped those switches simultaneously so after he turned one off, the pilot should have caught him doing it. My money is on a remote control of the switches and a terror test for much bigger things.


13 posted on 07/12/2025 5:43:19 AM PDT by Thebaddog (The hippies are running things)
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To: SaveFerris

There is no need for fuel control levers to be part of a Takeoff Warning System as the engines won’t run with fuel controls off. They couldn’t even taxi with them off, much less takeoff.


14 posted on 07/12/2025 5:43:25 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

IIRC both boxes were recovered. If that’s true...and if they weren’t undamaged...they should be able to get a good idea of what did,and didn’t,happen from wheels up to the end.


15 posted on 07/12/2025 5:44:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The report states that the First Officer was the pilot flying. It also states that both fuel switches were moved simultaneously to the off position almost immediately after the aircraft rotated up into flight, and that the aircraft remained on course. This would physically require the first officer to have both hands on the controls.

The fuel switches are located toward the rear of the center console, outside the forward field of vision. Therefore it is unlikely that the first officer moved the switches.


16 posted on 07/12/2025 5:44:27 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: jerod

These non-Native American Indians are the same people we are now allowing to run our Congress and weaponized “judiciary” mafia.


17 posted on 07/12/2025 5:46:37 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you have asylum in the U.S. and you go home to visit family, is it like violating a Protect Order)
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To: Brian Griffin
"Could the switches have been placed in an intermediate position that could change to ‘off’?"

They are designed with an interlock that requires the top cap of the switch to be lifted before it can be turned to the 'Off' position. This prevents the switch from changing position by being inadvertently bumped.

18 posted on 07/12/2025 5:46:59 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (If I said something really stupid, chances are I was under the influence of AutoCorrect. 🙄🫤)
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To: Brian Griffin

“ Could the switches have been placed in an intermediate position that could change to ‘off’?”

The fuel cutoffs are not like a SPST switch. These are spring loaded and must be pulled out and rotated by hand to the off position.

Suicide by pilot for 260 innocent souls.


19 posted on 07/12/2025 5:47:02 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: jerod

cockpit door video monitoring system:

https://pdf.aeroexpo.online/pdf/collins-aerospace-utc-aerospace-systems/boeing-787-video-system/170790-19360-_2.html


20 posted on 07/12/2025 5:48:09 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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