Posted on 07/10/2025 2:05:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Some senior officials who have taken the test have been asked whether they said anything negative about the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel, in a highly unusual use of the tool.
Typically, the F.B.I. has turned to polygraph tests to sniff out employees who might have betrayed their country or shown they cannot be trusted with secrets. Since Kash Patel took office as the director of the F.B.I., the bureau has significantly stepped up the use of the lie-detector test, at times subjecting personnel to a question as specific as whether they have cast aspersions on Mr. Patel himself.
In interviews and polygraph tests, the F.B.I. has asked senior employees whether they have said anything negative about Mr. Patel, according to two people with knowledge of the questions and others familiar with similar accounts. In one instance, officials were forced to take a polygraph as the agency sought to determine who disclosed to the news media that Mr. Patel had demanded a service weapon, an unusual request given that he is not an agent. The number of officials asked to take a polygraph is in the dozens, several people familiar with the matter said, though it is unclear how many have specifically been asked about Mr. Patel.
The use of the polygraph, and the nature of the questioning, is part of the F.B.I.’s broader crackdown on news leaks, reflecting, to a degree, Mr. Patel’s acute awareness of how he is publicly portrayed. The moves, former bureau officials say, are politically charged and highly inappropriate, underscoring what they describe as an alarming quest for fealty at the F.B.I., where there is little tolerance for dissent. Disparaging Mr. Patel or his deputy, Dan Bongino, former officials say, could cost people their job.
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And the problem is?
Question #1. Do you believe Epstein killed himself?
The comedy is never ending? The memes will only get better.
Good, as it should be.
Put Patel and Bongino on the box too. Ask them if their recent statement about Epstein are the whole truth and have they been instructed to leave anything out.
They have been doing this since the polygraph was invented. As has the CIA, NSA, Secret Service, DIA, etc.
Oops. Had to stop at question one of five:
1. Who is reporting it and what’s their angle? Always check the source. Is it an outlet known to lean Left, Right, or sensationalist? Look at the track record of the news source. Their editorial history can give clear signs whether they are pushing a narrative or giving you straight facts.
A NY Times hit job ... must be right on the money.
THANK YOU.
No heads up, no warning, just bring them in and hook them up.
Who is running the test? The FBI polygraph guys?
I worked as a government contractor for over 30 years. As a contractor you are ALWAYS eligible for a random polygraph. If you move into other classification areas you WILL get periodic polygraphs, no exceptions. If you move into other areas you get the polygraphs more often and randomly, including psychological assessments.
Take the damn polygraph or get the hell out. Two-faced bastards, what makes you so special?
Awesome!!!
Maybe those same morons getting grilled today realize that the poly should be done away with in the future.
Poly is a bad idea. The issues they choose to focus in on tend to become political. It’s a highly subjective tool that only has a degree of reliability that is highly dependent on the polygraphers skill.
Some folks can lie through their teeth and never come up for deception. Others will come up as being deceptive when answering their name, correctly! (Not a joke BTW)
Why? It measures a physiological response and some people can lie and feel no shame or guilt doing so, while others get nervous when asked questions they answer truthfully.
It is “claimed” to be 80 - 90% accurate, but I would claim that is wishful thinking. Studies on college kids like at Texas Tech many years ago where they create some ideal scenario aren’t real. Don’t know where to guess the accuracy to lie, but lower than 80 - 90%.
Anyone actually trained and who practiced (like some foreign Intel folks do) to defeat the poly will fly under the radar.
If I remember right, this is one of those knee jerk reactions that was implemented (expanded the poly organization wide and made it routine) after Hanssen: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen
Agree, no “studying”.
You’re right.
And if they have to suffer through it, if they get grilled about stuff they feel is wrong asking about, maybe they realize this shouldn’t be.
Not that dependable. Need to use various methods to get a true picture. I understand Isael uses a few different methods for people entering the country.
Some of them were probably trained on how to defeat it.
Those that weren’t, may be trained by the corrupt CIA agents that haven’t been fired yet.
(Just my opinion)
Could we expand that to Congress?
Good.
Yep.
Not fun even when you’re ok.
Polygraph tests are nothing new for FBI employees. Since this is the NYT (brought to us, of course, by EPU) I question the “loyalty” angle questions. More likely it is that they have specific information on the individual making statements and seeing if he/she is being truthful; or, deep state members lying about being asked such a question. But, of course, the NYT cares nothing about whether there is truth to the accusation as long as it can be construed as negative to Trump and his Administration.
“Hey North! Have you ever said anything negative about your employer’s CEO? Other executives? The board? Company policies?”
“Yes. I also follow the rules, even when I think they’re bullsnot.”
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