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The government's Epstein problem
American Thinker ^ | July 8, 2025 | By Nick Lopez

Posted on 07/08/2025 8:59:13 AM PDT by Kazan

The government is lying about Jeffrey Epstein. Either they were lying then, or they’re lying now, maybe both. They don’t get to claim that there are no client lists after issuing statements going back over a decade saying there were “client lists.”

Were they lying then when they described Epstein as a “large trafficking ring”? Or are they lying now when claiming that the “ring” consisted of exactly two people and Prince Andrew?

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Was the government lying then when they said they had thousands of hours of videos showing the most disgusting things imaginable? Or are they lying now when they maintain that the only thing that happened was 17-year-old girls giving Jeffrey a back massage with a happy ending (while gross, a far cry from “most disgusting things imaginable”)?

Speaking of video, the government claimed that the cameras outside of Epstein’s cell were malfunctioning (while the guards were napping), but now it posts 10 hours of video from the malfunctioning devices?

How did Epstein make his money? Why doesn’t the government know? Did he build a billion-dollar empire $9,999.99 at a time, and avoid reporting anything to the IRS ever?

Government officials start sounding like gender nonbinary people the second Epstein’s name comes up. They always talk about what he wasn’t and never about what he was. (“A nonbinary person is someone who doesn’t adapt to gender norms.” Well, duh, we asked for a definition of what nonbinary is, not what it isn’t.) #

The government is and has been lying about Epstein… the question is why?

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To: Starboard

Bongino should follow the example set by Catherine Austin Fitts.

For those who don’t know who she is—she was a former FHA Commissioner under Bush 1.0.

They thought they had appointed a token female who was not smart enough to cause any trouble.

Instead she began a full forensic audit of the agency and discovered a large chunk of the budget had been stolen with no audit trail. It was being used for off the books black budget stuff that had nothing to do with FHA.

When she brought that information to the White House they promptly fired her.

She then became one of those “crazy conspiracy theorists” investigating a wide range of government wrong-doing.


21 posted on 07/08/2025 9:27:21 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Starboard
They have clearly sold out and are doing the bidding of others who are controlling the info. Bondi is a mere functionary so no real surprise there, but I expected more integrity out of Patel and Bongino given the intensity of their long histories of anti-Deep state rhetoric. They are huge disappointments.

Whatever the truth is, it has them cowed, and so we can but speculate on what could be so earth-shaking as to make them willing to back off and shut up about this topic.

I have read that Epstein isn't dead, and that he's in protective custody. His entire operation was a government ran operation that netted big fish to be used for future blackmail against other national leaders.

I don't know what is going on, but I wouldn't think Bongino or Patel or Bondi would back down unless it was something destructive to the nation.

Maybe we got a bunch of Russian and Chinese moles out of this operation? Maybe exposing it will blow their cover?

I dunno, but I figure it must be serious for Patel, Bondi and Bongino to act like they are acting.

22 posted on 07/08/2025 9:27:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I don’t think Patel or Bondi knew what was going on when they first were handed this task. This is why they made all those statements that do not jive with what is being said now.”

What statements?


23 posted on 07/08/2025 9:29:37 AM PDT by TexasGator (.i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: cornfedcowboy

I agree with you. If Trump really wanted all this stuff to be released it would be — without any delays or excuses. His people would promptly comply.

Note that whenever Trump has been asked about Epstein he gets very evasive. The orders to DOJ are coming down from the top and its causing massive consternation with the agency higher up who are trying to wrestle with their past commitments to greater transparency and accountability. Its really an ugly mess.


24 posted on 07/08/2025 9:29:45 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I don’t think Patel or Bondi knew what was going on when they first were handed this task.”

Agreed—but that means they were way over their heads—and therefore not much use for us.

What else don’t they know that is critical to doing their jobs properly?


25 posted on 07/08/2025 9:29:58 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Ann Archy

If so why? If there’s evidence to the contrary then show the data. Enough with conspiracies. Bongino was as skeptic as anyone in here for years! I trust Bongino as should everyone else. He has held the same position with respect to the Deep State and has never backed off that stance. However, he has access to information we do not. If the information he has access to contradicts conspiracies (which 100% to date are) then I trust the man. Otherwise, show the information you and others have access to that he does not.


26 posted on 07/08/2025 9:31:17 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: ClearCase_guy

“No clients. Yet Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison. Huh.”

Read the charges she was convicted on.


27 posted on 07/08/2025 9:32:00 AM PDT by TexasGator (.i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Maybe Trump? I hope not.


28 posted on 07/08/2025 9:33:11 AM PDT by muggs
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To: Kazan

The assumption behind this and the other Epstein articles is that Bondi, Patel and Bongino control the evidence.

The FBI collected the Epstein files and evidence years ago and did nothing.

The evidence has probably been destroyed and their are probably plenty of deep state people who will lie about what happened.

The deep state won again.


29 posted on 07/08/2025 9:33:23 AM PDT by detective (F)
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To: cgbg

Hogwash! He felt one way before taking office and now has access to information we do not and has changed what was opinion to fact. If you have information to the contrary then share that information. Access to data without having it prior can change opinions. If unwilling to come off that hill in the face of facts is dogmatic and one has no business in any position of power.


30 posted on 07/08/2025 9:34:35 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: RideForever

“The very last minute of the record is missing.”

System glitch. Happened EXACTLY at midnight.

No way anyone could do anything in that one minute.


31 posted on 07/08/2025 9:35:09 AM PDT by TexasGator (.i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: KC Burke

She’ll probably get out, sue and make millions.


32 posted on 07/08/2025 9:38:18 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: gibsonguy

“We would not have been happy about it but lying to our face is so much worse.”

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There’s a palpable sense of betrayal as many expected this administration to champion greater transparency and accountability.


33 posted on 07/08/2025 9:38:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: muggs
Maybe Trump? I hope not.

The one thing we absolutely know is that there is nothing in the Epstein files that can damage Trump.

If there were, the nasty, corrupt, perverted, senile, Biden regime would have used them to put him in prison and cause him to lose the election.

They would have used anything they could against Trump, so we know there is nothing in there that will hurt Trump personally.

34 posted on 07/08/2025 9:39:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Starboard

You have access to information that Bongino does not? Produce it.


35 posted on 07/08/2025 9:40:28 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Starboard
There’s a palpable sense of betrayal as many expected this administration to champion greater transparency and accountability.

There may be an issue of national interest and loyalty to an ally.

If Israel is behind the Epstein scheme, exposing them could do damage to both them and the US. (for knowing about it and letting it continue)

It will also reveal the United States as protecting their interests over transparency, and that would add fuel to the fire for all the people who hate Israel anyway.

So if Trump and team weigh the value of Israel and the damage revelation will cause to them and the credibility of the US, against their voters desire to know the truth, they probably feel that the US national interests lie in keeping this covered up.

But this is just speculation.

Transparency and accountability may not be as important as US credibility and the interests of our ally Israel.

As Israel has done the world an enormous service in destroying Iranian nuclear ambitions, I am perfectly content with letting them get away with Epstein in exchange for what they have done to Iran.

36 posted on 07/08/2025 9:49:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Brian Griffin

Nice try at minimizing, Swamp-Troll.


37 posted on 07/08/2025 9:55:03 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jarhead9297; Ann Archy

So it was OK back then in his TV and podcast days for Bongino to speculate on Epstein theories even though he didn’t have access to the information that he supposedly has now?


38 posted on 07/08/2025 9:58:55 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: ClearCase_guy

The only thing currently that the Trump Administration can be thanked about this is Epstein and Maxwell did finally get some prison time.

And throw in that predator Weinstein.

All three would be operating as they did before, so that’s a plus.

But the mystery behind all this screams that a political class is protected through anonymity with the current blessings of the Trump Administration, and that’s not what MAGA expects.

Frankly, National Security be damned.

It’s past time to name names, countries, etc.
We know our aliies are enemies.

The Deep State isn’t going obliterate itself.

This looks like Deep State protection both foreign and domestic.


39 posted on 07/08/2025 10:02:15 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Kazan

This Epstein story line is complete bull.

The Epstein affair has been going on for a very long time.

Early on, before politics took over, the affidavits and indictments were public record.

I read some of them and they were horrific.


40 posted on 07/08/2025 10:02:17 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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