Posted on 07/04/2025 1:15:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
You just never should rejoice in the suffering of another, no matter who they are.
It’s not right.
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Adding an Amen to your prayer.
🙏🏻
The locals screwed up and all these people are dead this reminds me of hurricane helene they had hours of warning but didn’t think it would be a big deal til it was too late those poor kids I heard that and honestly the 4th is ruined how can I watch fireworks on tv knowing these families lost their babies
These camps have been there for nearly 100 years. Nothing lif this magnitude has ever happened
Absolutely horrible!
May God's comforting Arms surround those who have lost their loved ones in this devastating flood.
AMEN!!!
If people had tried to evacuate Ashville and surrounding places in under 24 hours many more would have likely perished in the traffic jam. The state motto for I-40 in western NC is "Under Construction" usually with lane closures. That was before the flood. The transportation infrastructure collapsed and washed away. So did towns. Towns that were very long settled areas. Some places were spared some weren't.
But the worst flood I saw in my neighborhood was from a typical summer storm front that hit the next Spring after TVA had put in a 180,000 volt powerline across my property and a mile along the ridge was clear cut. They clear cut the right of way and failed to reclaim it. It almost got my home because TVA was fixing to cut on the ridge up to less than 100 ft from my house until I sent them packing because they lied to me and stole timber. Yeah it flooded and springs shot out mud. Two people perished downstream.
I live about 100 ft off the valley floor. I wasn't worried much about the creek below me. I wasn't really worried until when I tried to go out for groceries the next day the road was gone at the creek. It was localized flooding.
Kerr County Texas has an average 1600 ft elevation with about 32 inch annual rainfall. Under the right weather conditions it could do it again in a century from now. Up until yesterday it looks like Kerr County was in an exceptional drought.
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This is the 3rd and biggest. More like a 500-year flood. Every mature tree was 50-75 feet. The biggest failure was that a campground/motel a few miles from my friend's place was evac'ed @ midnight, but no one bothered to inform the rest of the camps, towns and home along the route. Did save @ least a 150 but..... Everyone could have been warned.
The rain fell MILES from the flood site.
What people don’t understand is that “100 year flood” or “500 year flood” are odds, not schedules. The next 100 year flood could easily happen tomorrow or next year, but most people think ”well, that’s done with, so we don’t have to worry about it happening again for another century.”
The odds of being dealt a royal flush is almost 1 in 650,000. That doesn’t mean it can’t happen twice in a row. People just don’t understand probability.
The local rain was just additive; the problem began many miles westward.
The North Carolina/Upper East Tennessee flood from Helene was very rare for that region. Nothing really preventable because sides of ridges and mountains were sliding off. Unless you are 60 or so feet in elevation from a creek or river your odds are good you'll be OK unless the entire ridge gives way in a landslide. The Helene flood was of a magnitude unwitnessed by even the earliest European settlers. What it leaves behind is a potential for severe flooding until plants and trees grow back which absorbs water which helps stop flooding. That has not happened yet. People are still cleaning up the mess from last Fall, rebuilding roads, bridges, etc. and waiting for nature to reestablish a barrier.
I-40 in May due to normal yearly flooding of the Pigeon River Gorge had rock and mudslides that if Helene would haven't happened would not have had the mudslides. All this from typical storms. It closed I-40 for several weeks due to mudslides re-opening last week one lane each direction.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Some things in life you cant predict, no one could have predicted this, everyone knew it would rain but rain is one thing this is something else, this was on a whole other level no one saw this coming
There’s sure a lot of blame going around but looking at those videos, this looks like Hurricane Helene grade flooding that NOBODY expected.
The camp had been there for 100 years and there was no precedent for this kind of situation.
I don’t see the camp ever recovering from this. I certainly cannot see them rebuilding on that site.
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