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The Guardian justifies strike on Soroka Hospital: "it treats (also) soldiers".
I24 ^ | 6.19.25

Posted on 06/20/2025 12:59:47 AM PDT by Words Matter

“In addition to serving the population of southern Israel, Soroka Hospital is known as a place that treats soldiers wounded in Gaza.”

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1 posted on 06/20/2025 12:59:47 AM PDT by Words Matter
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To: Words Matter
Imagine blowing up a hospital because it "treats blacks."

Imagine blowing up a hospital because it "treats gays."

Imagine blowing up a hospital because it "treats Jews."

-PJ

2 posted on 06/20/2025 1:06:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Words Matter
The hospital is right next to two military targets:


3 posted on 06/20/2025 1:16:46 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Words Matter
Injured soldiers in hospital have always been treated as noncombatants. During the Ardennes
battle, some German soldiers stopped an American field ambulance at gunpoint. The Germans
loaded their wounded comrade onto the ambulance and sent it on its away with the American crew.

4 posted on 06/20/2025 1:27:54 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

You are correct. But it appears it was an oopsie and they were not aiming at the hospital. See map I posted above.

According to the BBC “His comments came after the Soroka hospital in southern Israel was hit during an Iranian missile attack. Iranian state media reported that the strike targeted a military site next to the hospital, and not the facility itself.”

Link: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4324188/posts

We’ve had our share of oopsies, like that time we bombed that hospital in Belgrade instead of a nearby army barracks in 1999.


5 posted on 06/20/2025 1:40:14 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

Not an excuse !!! If you’re going to be “lobbying” missiles then you need to be good at targeting them.

Don’t go with the “baby milk factory” mentality !!!


6 posted on 06/20/2025 1:40:18 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! I’m a fraud, hypocrite & liar. I'm a member of Congress!! )
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To: mabarker1

We bombed a hospital in Belgrade instead of a nearby army barracks in 1999.

We had more than a few “oopsies” during that campaign:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_during_Operation_Allied_Force

Oopsies happen in wars, sadly.


7 posted on 06/20/2025 1:42:53 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
But it appears it was an oopsie

Tell Me this. If your children, wife, parents or other family members are killed in a Hospital that was near by a raghead missile supposed target would you have the same answer ?!?!?!

I will bet not...

8 posted on 06/20/2025 1:47:24 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! I’m a fraud, hypocrite & liar. I'm a member of Congress!! )
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To: CatHerd
Yes, that makes more sense. Why target soldiers in hospital when there are healthy ones next door.

9 posted on 06/20/2025 1:49:28 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: mabarker1; CatHerd

Given that Israel demolished numerous hospitals in Gaza with the justification that Hamas was hiding within them, and given that they also struck a hospital in Iran during this most recent conflict, it’s disingenuous for them to cry foul if the favor is returned.


10 posted on 06/20/2025 1:51:30 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: CatHerd

Technology has been improved BIG TIME SINCE THEN...

We can Damned near shoot the wings off of a fly nowadays compared to those days.


11 posted on 06/20/2025 1:54:01 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! I’m a fraud, hypocrite & liar. I'm a member of Congress!! )
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
it’s disingenuous for them to cry foul if the favor is returned.

Gaza uses hospitals for arms storage and shelters for military operations. Israel doesn't. The big difference you can't see.

12 posted on 06/20/2025 2:02:40 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; All

The Israeli’s don’t store/launch missiles from a Hospital.

Apples and Oranges.

The information below is dated but the theory has not been changed. It’s exactly like below.

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How Islam progressively takes over countries By Mark Ellis

In Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam,” he documents the way Muslims slowly develop a presence in various countries and as their population numbers build, become more aggressive and assertive about exercising Sharia law.

“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life,” Dr. Hammond notes in his book. “Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.”

Their takeover of a country, what Dr. Hammond refers to as “Islamization,” begins when the population of Muslims reaches a critical mass, and they being to agitate for various privileges.

Open, free, democratic societies are particularly vulnerable. “When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well,” he notes.

This is how it works, according to Dr. Hammond:

When the Muslim population remains under 2% in a country, they will be seen primarily as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the current situation in:

United States — Muslim 0.6% Australia — Muslim 1.5% Canada — Muslim 1.9% China — Muslim 1.8% Italy — Muslim 1.5% Norway — Muslim 1.8%

As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2% Germany — Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7% Spain — Muslim 4% Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:

France — Muslim 8% Philippines — 5% Sweden — Muslim 5% Switzerland — Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in: Guyana — Muslim 10% Riots in Pakistan, 2013 Riots in Pakistan, 2013 India — Muslim 13.4% Israel — Muslim 16% Kenya — Muslim 10% Russia — Muslim 15%

The violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8% “At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40% Chad — Muslim 53.1% Lebanon — Muslim 59.7% From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in: Albania — Muslim 70% Malaysia — Muslim 60.4% Qatar — Muslim 77.5% Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83% Egypt — Muslim 90% Gaza — Muslim 98.7% Indonesia — Muslim 86.1% Iran — Muslim 98% Iraq — Muslim 97% Jordan — Muslim 92% Morocco — Muslim 98.7% Pakistan — Muslim 97% Palestine — Muslim 99% Syria — Muslim 90% Tajikistan — Muslim 90% Turkey — Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100% Somalia — Muslim 100% Yemen — Muslim 100%

Dr. Hammond observes this Islamic ideal is seldom realized. “Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.”

“It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia law,” he states.

Dr. Hammond is also concerned by demographic trends. “Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population,” he observes. “But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.”

Dr. Peter Hammond is a missionary who has pioneered evangelistic outreaches in the war zones of Mozambique, Angola and Sudan. Peter has travelled hundreds of thousands of miles to deliver Bibles to persecuted Christians in Africa and Eastern Europe.

He is the Founder and Director of Frontline Fellowship, the Founder and Chairman of Africa Christian Action, the Director of the Christian Action Network and the Chairman of The Reformation Society and the author of numerous missions-related books. He is the Editor of both Frontline Fellowship News and Christian Action.

Peter has developed the Biblical Worldview Seminar and Great Commission Course to mobilize churches to comprehensively apply the Lordship of Christ to all areas of life and to fulfill the Great Commission.

Peter was born in Cape Town and brought up in Rhodesia – now Zimbabwe. He converted to Christ in 1977, worked in Scripture Union and Hospital Christian Fellowship, served in the South African Defense Force and studied at Baptist Theological College, Cape Town. He also earned a Doctorate in Missiology. For more information about his book, go here.


13 posted on 06/20/2025 2:04:37 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! I’m a fraud, hypocrite & liar. I'm a member of Congress!! )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; woodpusher
And Israel has intentionally placed government and military facilities in close proximity to civilian areas.

Their blatant hypocrisy makes me less inclined to care when their enemies respond in kind.

14 posted on 06/20/2025 2:22:19 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: mabarker1

And what does your long article about the danger of encroaching Islamism have to do with the topic of Israel and Iran hitting each other’s hospitals?

One might say “apples and oranges”.


15 posted on 06/20/2025 2:24:01 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: mabarker1

Uh huh. And you know this how?

Notice it was a laser-guided bomb that hit the Belgrade hospital:

“NATO confirmed that one of eight laser-guided bombs intended for a military barracks in the predawn attack overshot its target by 500 yards. NATO spokesman Jamie Shea said “one of the bombs was misdirected for technical reasons,” but he declined to give further details or acknowledge that a hospital had been hit.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/stories/brussels052199.htm

Another oopsie in 2021:

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/2780257/dod-august-29-strike-in-kabul-tragic-mistake-kills-10-civilians/

There were lots of oopsies in that country, too. There always are in wars.


16 posted on 06/20/2025 2:33:22 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Lol. On FR You quote from liberal haaretz of 2021.
17 posted on 06/20/2025 2:40:38 AM PDT by Words Matter
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To: mabarker1

I think it’s horrid. But wars are horrid. Those who have never seen one up close and personal have no clue how horrid they really are.

Plenty of innocent civilians have been killed by Israeli strikes, too.

War is h3ll. That’s why I don’t cheer for it like some here do.


18 posted on 06/20/2025 2:44:19 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

IDF is a few kilometers apart from Soroka. Stop shill for jihad.

See this:
https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/iran-missile-strike-soroka-hospital


19 posted on 06/20/2025 2:44:34 AM PDT by Words Matter
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To: CatHerd
But not intentionally aiming at civilians. Apples and Oranges. How many Gazans would survive had Israel targeted non terrir targets?
20 posted on 06/20/2025 2:46:10 AM PDT by Words Matter
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