Posted on 06/19/2025 8:30:36 AM PDT by martin_fierro
It is hard to believe that barely one year ago, Joe Biden self-immolated on a debate stage in Atlanta. His cringeworthy meltdown set off a chain of events that led to the most dramatic—and exciting—presidential election in U.S. history.
What transpired after the evening of June 27, 2024 is a timeline even the best fiction writer could not have imagined. A near-fatal assassination attempt against Donald Trump; the replacement of Biden with Kamala Harris; another assassination attempt against Trump.
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Every day created a rollercoaster-like atmosphere—and ended with the greatest political comeback in U.S history when Donald Trump, written off for the political dead, decisively won the presidency. A story, those of us on the winning side still boast, we’ll one day tell our children and grandchildren.
But that wasn’t the end of the grand story.
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Now, there’s not too much harm in a little name-calling among friends; disagreement is necessary to keep any political movement sharp and nimble. And this is less a trust issue with the president and more a matter of deja vu—or PTSD, take your pick—from the GOP’s neocon days.
However, there is a real possibility the current finger pointing could develop into long term fractures beyond repair—which endangers the widely agreed-upon agenda of America First.
A letdown after a high, especially a high of this magnitude, is expected. But an extended hangover does no one any good.
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You mean MAGA is not just one big monolithic group of mind-numbed robots who can’t think for themselves? Shocking!
Big issues need to be argued. I don’t want Trump to get involved since Israel can win without us, but if he drops the bomb I will understand he has more info than we do.
Therein lies the problem.
I don't think the "America First" agenda is widely agreed-upon among Republicans. The party is littered with duplicitous @ssholes who only signed onto the MAGA movement because it has a winning horse.
Republicans who are owned by the Deep State will always cause trouble for Trump and the rest of us, nothing knew.
they do not want another damned protracted sons and daughters killing military industrial complex supporting proxy war
MAGA has many people who will not just trust Trump. That’s all. They don’t read his books. They don’t listen to people who know him, describe him. They underestimate how smart he is they don’t know his background, his education, his family history. They have no understanding about his accomplishments
They want main stream media to approve of him. They still hold that standard and they think he secretly does too. He does not
They think he is their Ken doll. They want him to do what he wants them to do
The arm chair war planners among MAGA think the enemies will behave in predictable, Geneva convention compliant ways.
Also, they do not want another damned protracted sons and daughters killing military industrial complex supporting proxy war-
They want to be right among their liberal coworkers and extended families.
Trump will take care of business whether MAGA splits apart or not
The country is bigger than that
Rumors of our fissures are greatly exaggerated.
MAGAlaise Fissures among MAGA are boiling over this week.”
BS nothing but BS.
Who gives a shit. Fissure or no fissure. Get things done that improve America's interests.
I prefer avoiding interference in foreign disputes and distant wars if at all possible. However, the nuclear game is something different. The U.S. needs to take seriously when a rogue regime such as Iran gets close to developing nuclear ballistic missiles.
Let's say Trump is bluffing and eventually goes TACO regarding Iran. That could send a signal to other nefarious regimes around the world to go ahead with their own nuclear ballistic missile plans: Hey, Trump went TACO on Iran, meaning he really is America First and isolationist, so we're in the clear for developing our own nuclear ballistic missiles. There's always that possibility. Something to consider. Not saying Trump should or should not attack. When it comes to isolationism, everything is not always an easy black or white choice.
I think a big part of MAGA, understandably, holds the issue of no more wars at or near the top of the most important reasons for MAGA and for President Trump. I don’t blame them one bit for voicing strident opposition to potential involvement in Iran. At the same time, I think there are many of us, without being evil “neocons”, who see a once in a lifetime shot at ending Iran’s nuclear threat, possibly forever, but at least for a long time and think that, in addition to helping our ally, is an extremely high priority for US national interests.
For that reason, I think there is gelling a moderate position that trusts President Trump to do what needs to be done with careful consideration of limiting the engagement, minimizing casualties to Iranian civilians and, of course, most importantly, to minimize risk to our personnel and assets.
The phrase “regime change” IMHO, is getting quite warn out in the heat of the argument used as a “straw man” argument that no one is actually making. I think most people don’t have that as a primary objective at all. It might be a good thing, but if it is the inevitable result of destroying their nuclear program, then it is well worth it. And no. NO ONE IN MAGA IS SAYING THEY WANT AMERICAN BOOTS ANYWHERE NEAR IRAN OR OCCUPYING THE COUNTRY. NO ONE. If I’m wrong, please send me a link to such an opinion.
When the President comes out and does the opposite of what he promised in his campaign speeches, well guess what some of us are going to have a problem with that. And no this won’t blow over it will only get worse.
I prefer mustard instead of malaise
Bwaaahaaaaaa
MAGA is dead jim, we just stole 2020.
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