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The Truth About Fort Knox and Gold Leasing
Daily Reckoning ^ | 7 June 25 | James Rickards

Posted on 06/09/2025 5:50:51 AM PDT by delta7

Whatever happened to the Donald Trump and Elon Musk visit to Fort Knox?

You’ll recall the buzz from earlier this year. Trump and Musk loudly announced they were going to visit the U.S. bullion depository at Fort Knox, Kentucky to make sure the U.S. gold was actually there. The press was invited to tag along. Musk claimed that his DOGE team was ready to “audit” the gold bars to see that there were none missing. I had my own views on the announcement (described below) but I certainly agreed this would be the mother of all photo ops.

For the record, the U.S. Treasury holds 8,133.5 metric tonnes of gold in the U.S. reserve position. Slightly less than half of this gold is stored in Fort Knox. The remainder is mostly stored in a secure vault at West Point, New York. The exact location of that vault is classified although I happen to know where it is. A small amount is held at the Denver Mint for coinage purposes. Legally the U.S. Treasury owns the gold reserve, but I point out that the U.S. Army actually controls it since almost all of the gold is stored on two Army bases – Fort Knox and West Point.

A Fort Knox Extravaganza

None of this nuance about storage and location deterred Trump and Musk. In the popular imagination, all of the gold is in Fort Knox. That’s where they were headed to prove once and for all that the gold was actually there. Elon Musk planned to livestream the entire visit using his Starlink satellite system. Trump vaguely threatened that if any gold were missing, there would be disastrous consequences for any wrongdoers who removed it. The plot was set. The drama seemed irresistible.

As an aside, I was hoping that Trump and Musk were each reasonably fit and had been lifting some free weights. Gold is heavy! In fact, it’s one of the most dense materials in the periodic table of the elements, leaving aside radioactive elements like uranium and some of the trace elements that only exist in minute atomic-level quantities. A standard 400-Troy Ounce bar weighs 27.4 pounds in the English system. I’ve lifted a few during my visits to secure gold vaults. I always smile for the camera, but inside it takes a lot of strength to keep the gold bar in the air. I was concerned that Trump or Musk might strain their backs putting on a show for the press.

Trump mentioned the proposed visit to Fort Knox in a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron. He mentioned it to reporters aboard Air Force One. He mentioned his plan again in remarks before the National Governors Association Conference and at the Conservative Political Action Committee (CPAC) annual meeting.

Then suddenly the whole story went away. Trump never mentioned it again after February 26. Musk went radio silent on the topic after April 6. There was no visit to Fort Knox. There was no announcement about why there would be no visit. It was as if the whole story never happened. It just went away.

Now, Elon Musk is leaving his position as head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). That was always in the cards. Musk’s appointment was as a temporary government employee; he was always going to leave about now. But why not put on a memorable gold show during his time in office? It simply never happened.

The Question Is, Why?

Let’s answer that beginning with the obvious point that the gold is all there. There have been rumors of missing and stolen gold almost from the day the bullion depository was built. Some suggested that European bankers stole the gold in the 1930s. Others said the Rockefeller clan looted the gold. The 1964 James Bond film Goldfinger is built around a plot to steal the gold.

This speculation makes for good rumor-mongering but, in fact, the gold is all present and accounted for. The last public audit was conducted in 1974, but annual audits are done by the U.S. Treasury (although the results are not made public). Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent recently said, “I can tell the American people … all the gold is there.”

If the gold is there (and it is), then why not go ahead with the visit? It would be great PR in any event and would reassure a skeptical American public.

A Money Monopoly

There are two reasons why the visit did not proceed and why you won’t hear more about it. The first one is that the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve (Fed) do not want to call attention to gold’s role as a monetary asset. The Fed (along with commercial banks) has a monopoly on the money printing press. The government has done everything possible to diminish and deny the role of gold as money, beginning with FDR’s confiscation of gold from U.S. citizens in 1933 and continuing through Nixon’s closing of the gold window for foreign trading partners in 1971. At this point, we have three generations of students since 1971 who know almost nothing about gold.

Gold is not taught in economics classes. Gold is not discussed in economic or Fed policy circles. Younger students don’t even know that the U.S. was ever on a gold standard or that gold once circulated freely as a form of money (usually in ¼-ounce or 8-gram coins). The government has eradicated any memory of gold as money. Why bring it back to life with a high-profile visit to Fort Knox? Better just to ignore gold if you want to maintain your money monopoly.

Of course, gold is a monetary asset. As noted, the U.S. has 8,133 metric tonnes (tonnes). Germany has 3,351 tonnes. Italy has 2,452 tonnes. France has 2,437 tonnes. Russia has 2,333 tonnes. And China reports that they have 2,292 tonnes although they are non-transparent and probably have much more. Among multilateral institutions, the European Central Bank has 506 tonnes and the IMF has 2,814 tonnes. If all of the members of the Euro area including the ECB combined their gold holdings, they would have 10,770 tonnes. All of these holdings should be put in the context of 36,118 tonnes, which is the amount of combined official gold holdings of every country in the world.

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The Top 10 Gold Reserve Holdings By Country

Why have such large gold holdings persisted for a century or more in some cases and increase on a continual basis if gold is not money? The question answers itself. Gold is a form of money.

It’s simply the case that major countries don’t want to acknowledge it because they want to maintain their monopoly on paper money, or they are still acquiring it and don’t want to spike the price, at least until they complete their acquisition programs. One of the Marx Brothers’ classic punchlines was, “Who ya gonna believe … me or your own eyes?” When it comes to gold, I believe my own eyes. Official holdings of 36,118 metric tonnes of gold bullion tell me all I need to know.

The Leasing Scheme

There’s another even more insidious reason why Trump and Musk backed off from their Fort Knox visit. Even allowing for the fact that the gold is actually in Fort Knox the deeper question is whether that gold is leased?

Gold leasing is an established market but not well-understood by non-specialists. Even experts in stocks and bonds know little about gold leasing. Basically, it’s a way for a gold holder to earn a return. Gold does not pay dividends or interest like stocks and bonds. But you can lease it to a third party and make 2% or so annually in lease payments. The party leasing the gold does not back up a truck and take it away. The gold stays in the original vault. Gold leasing is a purely paper transaction.

The gold lessor gets the lease payment. The lessee gets what’s called a right of rehypothecation. That means the lessee can lease the same gold to another party. And that party can lease it to a fourth party and so on. With rehypothecation in play, one metric tonne of gold could support 100 metric tonnes of “paper gold” transactions.

At each step in the chain, a party acts like it owns the gold for its own purposes of further leases or sales of “unallocated” gold. Everyone has price exposure and can make money if the price of gold goes up or lose money if the price of gold goes down. The same principle applies to gold futures, gold options, gold swaps, gold ETFs and an entire world of gold derivative transactions. The point is that the paper gold world is leveraged about 100:1 to the physical gold world starting with the physical gold in Fort Knox.

The danger is obvious. It’s no different than any run on the bank when it comes to bank deposits. If a group of paper gold investors suddenly demands physical delivery, the counterparties have to buy gold in the spot market since the leased gold is not in their physical possession. The gold market is liquid, but not liquid enough to support delivery if there were demand for more physical than a small slice of the paper gold market. A full-scale gold panic could emerge quickly. The spot price of gold would go to $25,000 per ounce before an investor could yell “buy!”

I take it that someone (possibly Scott Bessent) sat down and patiently explained the paper gold reality to Trump and Musk.

Once you understand how the market actually works, you quickly back away from putting on a show at Fort Knox. For the masterminds of the paper gold market at JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs, the less said about gold the better. They need to keep the game going. And that’s why Trump and Musk won’t be showing up at Fort Knox anytime soon.

For the rest of us, the solution to this problem is simple – buy gold.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: fortknox; gold; goldbux; goldtruth
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The new bill introduced into Congress, HR 3795, forcing President Trump into action. We shall see if it is passed.

H.R.3795 - To provide for the first true audit of gold owned by the United States in more than 65 years and to conduct subsequent audits every 5 years.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3795

1 posted on 06/09/2025 5:50:51 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

The concept is now swept under the rug because Trump was briefed...

“It is all gone Mr President”.


2 posted on 06/09/2025 5:59:17 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: delta7

This article convinced me that there is not enough gold in Ft Knox to make a decent molar.
Long gone.


3 posted on 06/09/2025 6:02:24 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: delta7
The Fed (along with commercial banks) has a monopoly on the money printing press.

Actually, the Treasury can print US Notes any time they wish.


4 posted on 06/09/2025 6:05:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: delta7
Then suddenly the whole story went away.

I've lost count of all of the future bombshells that were going to go off "next week" so far this year (ex. Epstein) and then suddenly the whole story went away. Very bad trend.

5 posted on 06/09/2025 6:09:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: delta7

“...The government has eradicated any memory of gold as money. ...”

Not as long as there are Pawn Shops...............


6 posted on 06/09/2025 6:12:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: delta7

Florida just passed a law making gold and silver coins legal tender in the state. Makes you think that change may be coming.


7 posted on 06/09/2025 6:17:54 AM PDT by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to the South)
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To: Red Badger

https://www.fgmr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Howard-Buffett-explains-sound-money-4-May-1948.pdf

Human Freedom Rests on Gold Redeemable Money
By HON. HOWARD BUFFETT, U. S. Congressman from Nebraska
Reprinted from The Commercial and Financial Chronicle, May 6, 1948

Is there a connection between Human Freedom and A Gold Redeemable Money? At first glance it would
seem that money belongs to the world of economics and human freedom to the political sphere. But
when you recall that one of the first moves by Lenin, Mussolini and Hitler was to outlaw individual
ownership of gold, you begin to sense that there may be some connection between money, redeemable in
gold, and the rare prize known as human liberty.
Also, when you find that Lenin declared and demonstrated that a sure way to overturn the existing social
order and bring about communism was by printing press paper money, then again you are impressed with
the possibility of a relationship between a gold-backed money and human freedom.
In that case then certainly you and I as Americans should know the connection. We must find it even if
money is a difficult and tricky subject. I suppose that if most people were asked for their views on money
the almost universal answer would be that they didn’t have enough of it.
In a free country the monetary unit rests upon a fixed foundation of gold or gold and silver independent of
the ruling politicians. Our dollar was that kind of money before 1933. Under that system paper currency
is redeemable for a certain weight of gold, at the free option and choice of the holder of paper money.
Redemption Right Insures Stability
That redemption right gives money a large degree of stability. The owner of such gold redeemable
currency has economic independence. He can move around either within or without his country because
his money holdings have accepted value anywhere.
For example, I hold here what is called a $20 gold piece. Before 1933, if you possessed paper money you
could exchange it at your option for gold coin. This gold coin had a recognizable and definite value all
over the world. It does so today. In most countries of the world this gold piece, if you have enough of
them, will give you much independence. But today the ownership of such gold pieces as money in this
country, Russia, and all divers other places is outlawed.
The subject of a Hitler or a Stalin is a serf by the mere fact that his money can be called in and depreciated
at the whim of his rulers. That actually happened in Russia a few months ago, when the Russian people,
holding cash, had to turn it in — 10 old rubles and receive back one new ruble.
I hold here a small packet of this second kind of money — printing press paper money — technically known
as fiat money because its value is arbitrarily fixed by rulers or statute. The amount of this money in
numerals is very large. This little packet amounts to CNC $680,000. It cost me $5 at regular exchange
rates. I understand I got clipped on the deal. I could have gotten $2-1⁄2 million if I had purchased in the
black market. But you can readily see that this Chinese money, which is a fine grade of paper money, gives
the individual who owns it no independence, because it has no redemptive value.
Under such conditions the individual citizen is deprived of freedom of movement. He is prevented from
laying away purchasing power for the future. He becomes dependent upon the goodwill of the politicians
for his daily bread. Unless he lives on land that will sustain him, freedom for him does not exist.
You have heard a lot of oratory on inflation from politicians in both parties. Actually that oratory and the
inflation maneuvering around here are mostly sly efforts designed to lay the blame on the other party’s
doorstep. All our politicians regularly announce their intention to stop inflation. I believe I can show that
until they move to restore your right to own gold that talk is hogwash.
Paper Systems End in Collapse
But first let me clear away a bit of underbrush. I will not take time to review the history of paper money
experiments. So far as I can discover, paper money systems have always wound up with collapse and
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economic chaos.
Here somebody might like to interrupt and ask if we are not now on the gold standard. That is true,
internationally, but not domestically. Even though there is a lot of gold buried down at Fort Knox, that
gold is not subject to demand by American citizens. It could all be shipped out of this country without the
people having any chance to prevent it. That is not probable in the near future, for a small trickle of gold
is still coming in. But it can happen in the future. This gold is temporarily and theoretically partial security
for our paper currency. But in reality it is not.
Also, currently, we are enjoying a large surplus in tax revenues, but this happy condition is only a
phenomenon of postwar inflation and our global WPA. It cannot be relied upon as an accurate gauge of
our financial condition. So we should disregard the current flush treasury in considering this problem.
From 1930-1946 your government went into the red every year and the debt steadily mounted. Various
plans have been proposed to reverse this spiral of debt……


8 posted on 06/09/2025 6:19:34 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
Whatever happened to the Donald Trump and Elon Musk visit to Fort Knox?

The same thing that happened to the Epstein files, ending foreign warmaking and proescuting the FBI/CIA coup plotters... among many other things.

9 posted on 06/09/2025 6:23:15 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: delta7

Physically the gold is there, the question is who has legal ownership? Leased, put there during WW2 to protect from Nazis….the list just goes on and on….. kind of like I can show you “my” house but in many cases the bank owns it!


10 posted on 06/09/2025 6:29:34 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: delta7

“He stepped to the window and pointed to the skyscrapers of the city. He said that we had to extinguish the lights of the world, and when we would see the lights of New York go out, we would know that our job was done.”
― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged


11 posted on 06/09/2025 6:29:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: delta7

Where Is the Gold?
The treasury department reports that most of this gold—147.3 million troy ounces—is stored at Fort Knox. In addition to this, the Treasury Department owns 54 million troy ounces stored at the West Point Mint, plus 43.8 million at the Denver Mint.Feb 27, 2025


12 posted on 06/09/2025 6:46:07 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Lockbox
the question is who has legal ownership?

Another question is how many simultaneously have "legal" ownership. There are different levels of ownership... gold in the possession of the government could be leased many times over (who is to know?), or re-hypothicated.

In a sense, the more "owners" there are, the more likely the allodial owner is the one in possession of said gold. There is always one, and only one, allodial owner of anything.

13 posted on 06/09/2025 6:51:21 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: AAABEST

I think it goes like this:

“We will tell everyone the truth about JFK. The people deserve to know. Oops. Wait. The truth is much worse than we thought. We can’t tell people the truth about this.”

“We will tell everyone the truth about UFOs. The people deserve to know. Oops. Wait. The truth is much worse than we thought. We can’t tell people the truth about this.”

“We will tell everyone the truth about Epstein. The people deserve to know. Oops. Wait. The truth is much worse than we thought. We can’t tell people the truth about this.”

“We will tell everyone the truth about Fort Knox. The people deserve to know. Oops. Wait. The truth is much worse than we thought. We can’t tell people the truth about this.”

The message that comes through: Everything is worse than you can possibly imagine.


14 posted on 06/09/2025 6:59:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: delta7
Musk claimed that his DOGE team was ready to “audit” the gold bars to see that there were none missing.

I suspect there are no gold bars there.

15 posted on 06/09/2025 7:26:57 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolutioan?)
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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16 posted on 06/09/2025 7:40:21 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: C210N

He who has the gold rules, he who has the army that has the gold really is in control 🤣


17 posted on 06/09/2025 7:59:54 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: armourenthusiast

Makes you think that change may be coming.
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A Gold standard like we had prior to 1971 was redeemable, dollars for Gold. Not possible today, unless Gold is “ revalued “ to way north of $20,000-30,000 plus.

What is possible is what Brics and others are doing, Gold backed currency,40 percent…..but it still will never be made redeemable.

Judy Shelton, Trumps last Treasury nominee, has stated in more than a few podcasts issuing out 50 or 100 year Treasury notes, bonds, ( debt) fully redeemable in Gold.

Beware there are less and less buyers of our sovereign debt, and a milestone was just reached whereas more physical Gold was purchased by the world governments than US Treasuries….not a good sign.


18 posted on 06/09/2025 8:14:11 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
The 1964 James Bond film Goldfinger is built around a plot to steal the gold.

Actually the idea was to make the gold unusable by making it radioactive.

19 posted on 06/09/2025 8:27:47 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: delta7
gold once circulated freely as a form of money (usually in ¼-ounce or 8-gram coins).

Yes another common error. Gold coins and gold certificates rarely if ever circulated. Silver coins, and the various Federal currencies of days past (United States Notes, Silver Certificates, Treasury notes, Federal Reserve Notes, Refunding Certificates and mostly National Bank Notes). The bank were required to hold their local in vault reserves in Gold Coin and/or Gold certificates and so they were hoarded by them. You could request them and they would pay them out but the default was to keep them.

They preferred to circulate the National Bank Notes that were not backed by metal and later Federal Reserve Notes that were initially backed at 20% in gold but that soon passed and they took over circulation. I can remember from my childhood in New England $2 United States Notes with the Red Seal being in ubiquitous in circulation and my father telling me that it was because of racetracks using them.

20 posted on 06/09/2025 8:42:16 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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