Putin feels he must respond to Ukraine's drone attacks, Trump warns

BBC ^ | June 4, 2025 | Bernd Debusmann Jr

[9YearLurker]

Maybe you’re just one NATO/Ukraine propagandist with control of all the aligned propagandist accounts posting here?

[Bikkuri]

Ignore the Euroweenies...

[Bratch]

President Trump Provides Context of Call with Russian President Vladimir Putin

June 4, 2025 | Sundance 

Cut through all the chaff and countermeasures deployed by the professional DC system intended to convolute and keep Trump and Putin at arm’s length, and you can see the outline of what we have discussed on these pages for several months.

There are geopolitical benefits to President Trump and President Putin having a strategic alignment.  However, the elements against them are massive, entrenched and highly Machiavellian.

President Trump shares the following message after a phone call with Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin.

[SOURCE]

…”It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate Peace. President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields.”…

As Ukraine officials huddle together with their co-dependent enablers in the U.S. Senate, the implied message from the second half of Trump’s statement is for the senators to stop messing with U.S. foreign policy because Putin can help solve the Iran problem.

[Grzegorz 246]

“Ukraine is over.”

Hasn’t it been over since 3.5 years ?

[Petrosius]

It has been 3 1/2 years and Ukraine is still standing.

[McGruff]

“Ukraine has experienced the utter flattening of Ukrainian cities”

I think you are referring to Gaza City which Russia has the ability to turn Kiev into.

[Grzegorz 246]

“which Russia has the ability”

Such as ?

[circlecity]

“ It has been 3 1/2 years and Ukraine is still standing.”

except 40% of their country is gone.

[JonPreston]

If DJT were even consistent... DJT can’t seem to be consistent, and his instability is growing more troubling every day.

"I am Battman and I'm troubled and concerned about Trump's instability."

[packrat35]

I agree with everything you say. No way Ukraine pulled this off all on their own. The warpigs are desperate to continue and escalate the war. Close to 40% of FR are in that group...

[packrat35]

Because the US and EU have been bankrupting themselves. It can’t go on forever, no matter how much Zelenskyy thinks...

[Magnum44]

Your tinfoil hat is rather askew on your head.

I had a good chuckle at that :)

[alexander_busek]

Those bombers that the CIA/MI6 destroyed in a Uraine false-flag operation are part of the MAD agreement. By treaty, they have to be observable from the air, and periodic inspections are required. Destroying them was a treaty violation.

The New SALT treaty to which you are referring was suspended by Putin in February of 2023. The treaty has thus been null and void since that time. Putin publicly repudiated the treaty, and stated that Russia would no longer abide by it.

Further, Ukraine was not a party to that (now defunct) treaty anyway! So how could Ukraine violate it?

Your argument betrays a phenomenal ignorance of the facts.

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

If DJT were even consistent... he would use this as a reminder of why he wants the war ended. But DJT can’t seem to be consistent, and his instability is growing more troubling every day.

No, the article is deliberately mischaracterizing President Trump's stance and response to the Putin phone call.

President Trump did not "warn;" rather, he "drew attention to," etc.

The author of this piece is using intentionally loaded words to color President Trump's actual words and position.

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

I'd imagine Ukraine's latest attack has pretty much reset the counter on any deadline - Ukraine certainly did not act like a nation ready for peace discussions, and they'll need to take whatever Russia delivers up in the way of retaliation.

On the same day as those drone-attacks against legitimate military targets, Russia likewise attacked Ukraine. I guess that, by your logic, Russia was also never "ready for peace discussions."

Regards,

[AAABEST]

If neither of these two can even get into the same room to discuss, argue, and shout ...there will be no peace.

There never was going to be a negotiated peace. Russia will just move it's borders to the left/west, defend them and smash any unagreed to NATO or EU ops it finds.

It's only a matter of how left/west they go and if they can or will take areas like Odessa. Regardless, Ukraine will be made the buffer it was always intended as - ever since Russia CREATED it in 1991.

Ukraine will become a rump state. If the west continues throwing gear and funds into the black s**thole, that's their problem.

[Magnum44]

I am just wondering what the over/under is for the number of times E. Pluribus will say ‘pom-poms’ on this thread. :)

[alexander_busek]

Well Zelensky has squandered several attempts at a cease-fire.

Putin could have had a cease-fire - heck, he could have had a total cessation of hostilities - on any day since he broke internat'l law and invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022.

All he needed to do was turn tail and run back to Mother Russia.

If Putin had publicly announced a complete withdrawal, and immediately taken steps to vacate the territory of the sovereign nation of Ukraine, the Ukrainians would have allowed them to retreat in peace.

But Putin has consistently squandered those precious opportunities.

Regards,

[AAABEST]

I guess that, by your logic, Russia was also never "ready for peace discussions."

You weren't addressing me, but you're spot on, Zeeper.

Russia has no need for discussions. They're getting the objectives they want while sucking the life out of a divided, weak NATO.

How so few see this, including Trump, is truly baffling.

[alexander_busek]

It has been 3 1/2 years and Ukraine is still standing.

except 40% of their country is gone.

Math and geography are not your strong suits.

But roughly a million Russian soldiers are gone (maimed or dead).

You can thank Putin for that!

Regards,