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Zelensky’s Gauntlet – Did Ukraine Just Draw the USA and NATO Closer to War with Russia by Targeting Russian Strategic Long-Range Bombers Covered by SALT and START Treaties?
The Conservative Treehouse - The Last Refuge ^ | June 2, 2025 | Sundance

Posted on 06/02/2025 11:33:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

First the cliff notes version: There’s an important detail to remember.  People are laughing at the long-range Russian bombers being left out in the open, vulnerable to attack. However, the bomber visibility is required as part of several nuclear agreements between the USA and Russia (SALT and START).  Our U.S. long range nuclear capable bombers, covered under the same agreements, are also visible.

Ukraine President Zelenskyy is playing with fire by targeting them, which also explains why Zelenskyy never told President Trump in advance.

The U.S and NATO have provided the means. However, #1) did Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy just exploit a vulnerability by targeting Russian long-range nuclear capable bombers?  and #2) was the CIA and NATO intelligence community a willfully blind participant knowing they would benefit?

Both the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT) and the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), call for U.S. and Russian long range nuclear capable bombers to remain “visible and observable by national technical means of verification.”  That open visibility creates a mutual vulnerability as well as a method of surveillance and verification for both the USA and Russian Federation.

[Article III, Paragraph 7, START Treaty Overview]

Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and by extension his NATO enablers, just exploited that SALT/START vulnerability and used drones to attack Russian bombers covered by USA-Russia treaties.  There are reports (and videos) now surfacing from inside Russia showing the Russian Federation moving strategic long-range mobile missile launchers into position for a counterattack against Ukraine.

This situation is obviously very fluid and let us all hope that President Trump and President Putin are in communication about this escalation as created by Zelenskyy and his enablers, even if -and probably especially if- our own intelligence agencies are part of the enabling.

Think about the ramifications of NATO enabled Ukraine targeting major Russian military assets which are vulnerable only because they are part of a previously agreed U.S-Russia negotiation to remain vulnerable.  In essence, an argument can be made by Russia that NATO -and by extension us- have targeted nuclear capable missile systems, and those systems were protected by the SALT/START treaties.  How would we respond of an adversary launched a strike against our strategic long-range nuclear capable bombers in the USA?

[Page 29, START Treaty Article XII – “TREATY BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION ON THE REDUCTION AND LIMITATION OF STRATEGIC OFFENSIVE ARMS]

I cannot imagine how President Trump would address a phone call with President Putin when the leader of the Russian Federation confronts him with the reality that it was NATO and USA military support, actual hardware and technical capability, that has provided Ukraine with the ability to target strategic nuclear weapons.

If President Trump did not know of the strike target in advance, which is the element being reported and confirmed by multiple media outlets, this would indeed put Trump in a very difficult position.  That reality is likely the motive for Ukraine never to have informed the White House.

Keep in mind the SALT/START treaties are between the USA and Russia only, not necessarily including NATO or European countries.  However, the U.S. govt has publicly and openly been sending military hardware and technical resources into Ukraine.

If President Trump or his National Security Council were made aware that Ukraine was going to strike at nuclear capable targets covered by strategic defense agreements, I strongly doubt President Trump, or any member of his administration would have approved or consented to any participation or support.  This is just too strong a provocation to enlarge the conflict and draw NATO into it even deeper.

What happens next is unknown.

President Barack Obama negotiated New START, a successor to President Ronald Reagan’s 1994 START I Treaty. START I cut long-range, or strategic, nuclear arsenals by 30-40 percent. New START slashed accountable deployed strategic arms by another three-quarters. In 2021, Presidents Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin extended New START until next February 2026.

RESOURCES:

New START TREATY 2023

START Treaty 2009-2017

Dept of Defense ASD(A)

 



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1 posted on 06/02/2025 11:33:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Russia agreed at Budapest to not only respect, but guarantee Ukraine's independence. Russia broke the agreement and now Ukraine has destroyed some of its strategic bombers. Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please
– Niccolò Machiavelli
2 posted on 06/02/2025 11:36:58 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

History begins on a day of your choosing, right?


3 posted on 06/02/2025 11:37:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: Dr. Franklin

NATO also agreed not to expand.


4 posted on 06/02/2025 11:38:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Good thing the Ukraine just gave Russia permission to stage attacks on the countries supplying the arms and weapons to the Ukraine.


5 posted on 06/02/2025 11:39:08 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis icShouldn't shetu vultures super turrem exanimat.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So Russia can use strategic bombers to launch cruise missiles into Ukraine, but Ukraine can’t attack those same strategic bombers?


6 posted on 06/02/2025 11:39:32 AM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
OR, and this may be controversial....

Did Zelensky just cause the West to say ...


7 posted on 06/02/2025 11:40:51 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: larrytown

Works for me.


8 posted on 06/02/2025 11:41:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: ETCM

“So Russia can use strategic bombers to launch cruise missiles into Ukraine, but Ukraine can’t attack those same strategic bombers?”

I doubt the Russians are foolish as to believe the attack of their long range bombers and long range radars are anything but at the behest of the west, who benefits far more than the Ukraine for so risky a proposition.


9 posted on 06/02/2025 11:44:20 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis icShouldn't shetu vultures super turrem exanimat.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Lindsay is General Jack D. Ripper.


10 posted on 06/02/2025 11:47:29 AM PDT by OKSooner (Always carry. Even if all you can handle is a .22, carry it. You might be surprised.)
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To: rottweiller_inc

All’s fair in love and war. Heard it somewhere.

Ukraine is disarming Russia by emptying their enemy’s weapons stockpile. Is Zelensky our canary in the coal mine?


11 posted on 06/02/2025 11:49:20 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Dr. Franklin

Ukraine in its constitution in 1996 agreed to be neutral toward Ukraine and broke that pledge in 2014 with an illegal coup that setoff a civil war in the country.


12 posted on 06/02/2025 11:49:35 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Drawing the US into their war is exactly why they did this.


13 posted on 06/02/2025 11:50:34 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ya think? That little megalomaniac needs to be stopped. He obviously doesn’t care about anything but the grift, no matter how many people he kills.


14 posted on 06/02/2025 11:51:20 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: rottweiller_inc
Good thing the Ukraine just gave Russia permission to stage attacks on the countries supplying the arms and weapons to the Ukraine.

Russia bit off more than it can chew with Ukraine. Ukraine just damaged or destroyed about a third of Russia's strategic bomber fleet. Russia won't attack anyone in NATO or SEATO. I don't think Russia wants to attack Georgia right now either.
15 posted on 06/02/2025 11:51:49 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“All’s fair in love and war. Heard it somewhere.”

So cargo ships full of drones attacking the US is fair, who not only supplied the lions share of money and arms to the Ukraine, in addition to passing a law to legally steal monies Russia had on deposit and give it the Ukraine to make war on Russia. I wonder how far your sense of fairness will stretch.


16 posted on 06/02/2025 11:52:45 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis icShouldn't shetu vultures super turrem exanimat.)
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To: Dr. Franklin

“Russia bit off more than it can chew with Ukraine.”

Well they are fighting NATO, Europe and the US via proxy because those countries have so much courage to make war they get others to do the dying.


17 posted on 06/02/2025 11:54:02 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc (Lupus urbem intravit. Fulminis icShouldn't shetu vultures super turrem exanimat.)
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To: rottweiller_inc
Well they are fighting NATO, Europe and the US via proxy because those countries have so much courage to make war they get others to do the dying.

NATO, Europe and the US didn't invade Ukraine. Russia did.
18 posted on 06/02/2025 11:55:47 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: rottweiller_inc

Let’s start with Lend Lease against the Krauts. Then there’s the flying tigers against the Japanese. Don’t forget Russian aid to the North Vietnamese.


19 posted on 06/02/2025 11:56:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Autopen crowd authorized this.


20 posted on 06/02/2025 11:56:38 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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