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Details Surface of FBI Record System Containing “Prohibited Access” Files, Exclusively Controlled by 7th Floor FBI Officials
Conservative Treehouse ^ | May 31, 2025 | Sundance

Posted on 06/01/2025 8:17:53 AM PDT by george76

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley released some of the FBI investigative files related to a congressional referral of Nellie Ohr for false testimony to congress. Within the Grassley release the declassified FBI investigative notes show that Trump-Russia files were compartmentalized, allowing control over access to them by the FBI Director and FBI Deputy Director.

The 7th floor level classification within the FBI’s Sentinel record-keeping system was previously unknown, and now people are starting to ask questions about what other information may be filed yet invisible due to the classification designation of “Prohibited Access.”

The Sentinel record-keeping system allows FBI officials and investigators to review and research the status of investigations both past and current. The Sentinel system is also the information system that is searched for responsive documents to legal cases and FOIA inquires. The Sentinel system contains all the information used by the FBI.

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Within the Sentinel system there are “Restricted Access” files that are used to control who can view the file information. The FBI official can see the file but cannot access the information within it without a higher clearance level. However, now people are discovering there is a “Prohibited Access” designation that makes the file invisible to searches or queries and is controlled by the FBI Director and FBI Deputy Director.

Margot Cleveland is asking some good questions about how the use of the “Prohibited Access” designation may circumvent the FBI’s legal requirements (brady material) and FOIA searches. [SEE HERE] However, I would also note this approach hides information not only from congress and from the public, but also from the Executive branch itself. The DNI wouldn’t even know what information exists.

Additionally, we can expand the overall issue to highlight this same approach at work in various other governmental agencies. This is one of the reasons I refer to the agencies within government more aptly as information “silos.”

The same “secrecy filtering” system outlined in the FBI Sentinel system, “restricted access” (visible but needing a higher clearance) vs “prohibited access” (totally invisible) exists in other govt systems.

The NSA, DHS and CIA contain the same issue, information hidden and kept secret. This is the core reason I have historically called them “silos.”

The same ‘what the heck’ realization encountered with the FBI file keeping, as noted by the Grassley revelations, extends far beyond the FBI.

This is also why I have said the Intelligence Community has created a “caste system” within the surveillance and information space.

Now do you see why elements of the IC, and by extension their political enablers, were going bananas about DOGE access?

Simmer on it for a moment, because it gets worse.

Right now, like right now while you are reading this, the same framework is being applied to the DHS surveillance network, where “restricted access” and “prohibited access” (invisible) are being applied to PEOPLE.

Our government, via Palantir, is currently building the domestic identity surveillance system, where every identity will be stored. However, within the storage, and by extension the parameters of the surveillance search results, there will be people who are defined by placing their identity in the “prohibited access” category.

Great job realizing the secrecy ramifications of the issue within the FBI and their exploitation therein. Now extend that realization to the ramifications for us of other silos doing the same.

I was told in August 2020 that the FBI investigative file into James Wolfe leaking the Carter Page FISA application, is in the “prohibited access” tier of the FBI because it outlines Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Vice-Chairman Mark Warner participating and directing the leak. That was how/why SSCI Security Director James Wolfe was never charged with leaking a TSCI classified file.

Is the President of the United States really in charge of the executive branch, when the agencies can easily hide information from him?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: access; carterpage; chuckgrassley; crossfirehurricane; doj; fbi; fisa; fusiongps; grassley; nellie; nellieohr; ohr; prohibited; prohibitedaccess; recordkeeping; russiarussiarussia; sentinel; trump; xfiles

1 posted on 06/01/2025 8:17:53 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Vice-Chairman Mark Warner participating and directing the leak

So you pull the Gentleman from VA's clearance, that of his staff and any SSCI staff involved and prosecute them.

2 posted on 06/01/2025 8:25:57 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: george76

7th Floor is where the bodies are Hidden.
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Good Work DOGE !


3 posted on 06/01/2025 8:26:37 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

4 posted on 06/01/2025 8:40:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The best thing about a muzzie civil war is, everyone wins.)
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To: george76

Those FBI “officials” have engaged in criminal activity. They are not authorized to have “secret” files. How long until they are prosecuted?


5 posted on 06/01/2025 8:43:28 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: george76
"Is the President of the United States really in charge of the executive branch, when the agencies can easily hide information from him?"

A very good question.

Also, How long has this system been operating?

6 posted on 06/01/2025 8:43:53 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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KGB got nothing on the FIB


7 posted on 06/01/2025 8:54:03 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Your oath of enlistment has no expiration date)
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To: george76

The federal government has become Goliath: unknowable, unworkable, and illegal.


8 posted on 06/01/2025 9:06:15 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Kash and Bongino just promoted them.


9 posted on 06/01/2025 9:22:16 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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“How long has this system been operating?”

Hiding files? Since before our country was a country. The Founding Fathers did hide certain information, particularly during the Constitutional Convention in 1787. They implemented a rule of secrecy, ensuring that no copies of journal entries could be taken, and no speeches could be printed or communicated without permission. This secrecy was seen as crucial for fostering open and honest deliberation among the delegates. Face it people, without a real hard look, you have no idea who is in charge and who you voted for to be so. Besides, this statement only references the president. Think he’s alone in this secrecy?

wy69


10 posted on 06/01/2025 9:34:43 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Obama weaponized the intelligence agencies, and as with Biden was directly installed by them, including Social Media platforms and their managed MSM outlets for disinformation. Maxine Waters was so proud of it she told the world in 2012.

“The president has put in place an organization that contains a kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life that’s going to be very, very powerful... And that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before. He’s been very smart” - Maxine Waters


11 posted on 06/01/2025 10:54:14 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: HYPOCRACY

Yup—everyone connected with that seventh floor operation should be fired already.


12 posted on 06/01/2025 10:59:23 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: george76

Reminds me of the times I went to work on the weekend. No phones, no meetings. I could get more done.

I was looking some forms and information on the corporate “shared” drive, where corporate-wide information, procedures, and forms could be accessed. As I began looking at the directories and the sub-directories, I noticed that someone had placed the entire Accounting Department folder on the shared drive.

Now, there may have been a confidential shared drive somewhere, but I did not have access.

There were a few others working that day. I walked over and informed them of the mistake. Their eyes got really wide, the Holy Molly kind of wide.


13 posted on 06/01/2025 11:05:38 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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yup! ZERO faith that this will happen. Where’s Kash and Pam today?


14 posted on 06/01/2025 11:34:23 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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Some where, some place there is a little IT weenie that set it up. The 7th floor management doesn’t have that talent. So find the IT weenie and give him 30 years in a hard case Federal pen. Then find out how bad he/she wants to negotiate.


15 posted on 06/01/2025 12:21:04 PM PDT by Flint
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Some where, some place there is a little IT weenie that set it up. The 7th floor management doesn’t have that talent. So find the IT weenie and give him 30 years in a hard case Federal pen. Then find out how bad he/she wants to negotiate.

I've been retired from IT for a bunch of years, but I don't think granting authorization has changed all that much. Let's say Comey's office calls the IT guy to request a read/writer folder set up with him and McCabe and nobody else. Once this is done, the IT guy has no other determination on what goes in and of the folder. An outside influence may direct an administrator to take control of that folder to see whats in it.

16 posted on 06/01/2025 1:38:49 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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Microsoft has a new feature called “Recall” that takes snapshots of everything on your computer. They claim not to record the credit cards numbers or tax info but they record everything else and I do not believe they do not share the information with anyone. Remember all the phony FISA warrants the democrats created to get your information? Microsoft would give the info up.
The security cameras many have, the local police can get the camera footage from the cameras on your block and elsewhere. In short you and others are being followed. I saw a video on car dealers plugging in GPS trackers supposedly to track you in case you fail to make payments. Not just that but they sell your movements.

FTA: Simmer on it for a moment, because it gets worse.

Right now, like right now while you are reading this, the same framework is being applied to the DHS surveillance network, where “restricted access” and “prohibited access” (invisible) are being applied to PEOPLE.

Our government, via Palantir, is currently building the domestic identity surveillance system, where every identity will be stored.


17 posted on 06/01/2025 10:26:53 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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