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In Attacks on Harvard, Chinese See Yet Another Reason to Write Off the U.S.
The New York Times ^ | May 23, 2025, 3:57 a.m. ET | Vivian Wang

Posted on 05/23/2025 12:24:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

If the Trump administration succeeds in blocking Harvard from enrolling international students, the hardest-hit group would be students from China, who make up the school’s biggest share of current students from overseas.

The consequences are likely to extend far beyond those select few who could gain entry to the prestigious university. The move could reshape the broader relationship between the two countries by cutting off one of the few remaining reasons that people in China still admire the United States.

The flow of students from China to the United States has long been one of the most reliable ballasts in the two countries’ relationship, despite growing geopolitical tensions and China’s superpower ambitions. China until recently was by far the biggest source of international students to the United States, sending hundreds of thousands of people each year. Even as other symbols of the United States — Hollywood, for example, or iPhones — lost their cachet for many Chinese, American universities remained a source of aspiration, even veneration.

Elite universities like Harvard played a particularly important role in that admiration. In recent years, even student exchanges have started to suffer from the two countries’ frosty ties, as many have worried about anti-Chinese discrimination, difficulty securing visas or crime. But schools like Harvard were an exception: They remained as attractive as ever to Chinese students, who were willing to overlook other concerns for the promise of a best-in-the-world education.

Now, even that beacon is in question.

“Everyone comes here with the ideal of changing the world,” said a current Chinese graduate student at Harvard, who requested anonymity for fear of endangering her visa. “But when I’m trying to understand the world, the world shuts me...”


(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: China; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; china; communism; durantytimes; education; espionage; fakenews; fakenooz; harvard; newyorkslimes; officialdemnarrative; ohnoanyway; redchina; stalinistcrap; studentspies; tds; vivianwang

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They didn't send their spies to Harvard out of admiration.

They sent them for the intellectual property theft.

1 posted on 05/23/2025 12:24:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ridiculous tripe.


2 posted on 05/23/2025 12:29:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Everyone comes here with the ideal of changing the world,”

Start by changing the One-Party Rule in Peking.

Tiananmen Square would be a great place for a rally.


3 posted on 05/23/2025 12:30:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

100%.

I would not have the total lack of sympathy if they weren’t wards of the ChiCom government, here only with their approval.

And they don’t give approval without strings attached.


4 posted on 05/23/2025 12:32:12 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

American citizens are used to thinking of students in a kindly fashion. Which (in general) is all understandable, well, and good. But Communist China is not a general case for foreign students coming here, any more than Communist China is a normal country.

It sends “students” to USA for three purposes,
1. to steal science and technology and
2. to steal information (spy on us),
3. to influence our politics and public perceptions of the PRC.

Anybody who has had even the remotest connection with American science and technology (whether on leading campuses like Stanford and MIT, or in industrial settings like in SillyCon Valley) knows (1) is being conducted against USA on a MASSIVE scale. Massive!

Just saying that there has to be far better “vetting” of visitors coming into USA, especially those from overtly enemy or hostile countries (PRChina, Iran, Arab Islamicist countries, Cuba, Venezuela?, etcetera).


5 posted on 05/23/2025 12:35:54 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They cheat at school, anyway.


6 posted on 05/23/2025 12:37:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yamamoto went to Harvard.


7 posted on 05/23/2025 12:38:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let them go to European universities. I hear the tuition is much lower.


8 posted on 05/23/2025 12:39:36 PM PDT by CaptainK ("No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” )
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To: faithhopecharity

Good list.

They also send passwords and other items to China. Looking at the Post-It notes above the computers, the access notes from a woman’s purse while she’s in the rest room, the back door access codes as shortcuts for non research places communicating with research grant universities.


9 posted on 05/23/2025 12:43:32 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: central_va

Does the NYT ever print anything that is not tripe, or worse?


10 posted on 05/23/2025 12:44:31 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Most are good people with good intentions.

Be very careful about saying something or taking any action that might offend. Being nice is the preferred course of action unless there is strong evidence to the contrary.

It is hard to keep things a secret - the patent system exists for good reason.

Access to top secret information should require a polygraph.

Access to top secret information should not be given to foreign-born persons as a matter of routine.


11 posted on 05/23/2025 12:47:59 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

My wife worked at the local universisty in the economics department. Just about all the graduate econ students were Chinese. They were all good people and my wife enjoyed working with them.


12 posted on 05/23/2025 12:50:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey, having Yamamoto attend Harvard did wonders for international relations.


13 posted on 05/23/2025 12:51:12 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly.


14 posted on 05/23/2025 12:52:20 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

No, many times like this article, it is straight up anti-American...


15 posted on 05/23/2025 12:53:19 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The hardest-hit group would be students from China, who make up the school’s biggest share of current students from overseas.”

The good news keeps on coming!


16 posted on 05/23/2025 12:55:18 PM PDT by TheDon (Remember the J6 political prisoners! Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As long as the students are here to learn, do the expected work and observe American conduct norms, I really don’t have a problem with their presence on American soil.

The Chinese students are human beings and must be treated on their own merits.


17 posted on 05/23/2025 12:55:37 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Every last one of those “students” is duty bound to support the intelligence services of the Chinese Communist Party.


18 posted on 05/23/2025 12:59:53 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Just about all the graduate ... students were Chinese.”

Is there a lack of applications from American citizens?

Are the applications from American citizens lacking in quality?


19 posted on 05/23/2025 1:03:16 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Well, there’s always the following:

Damascus University (Syria)
Kim Il Sung University (North Korea)
University of Luanda (Angola)
University of Tehran (Iran)
University of Khartoum (Sudan)


20 posted on 05/23/2025 1:04:14 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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