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Posted on 05/23/2025 12:14:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Summary
May 23 (Reuters) - Billionaire Elon Musk’s DOGE team is expanding use of his artificial intelligence chatbot Grok in the U.S. federal government to analyze data, said three people familiar with the matter, potentially violating conflict-of-interest laws and putting at risk sensitive information on millions of Americans.
Such use of Grok could reinforce concerns among privacy advocates and others that Musk's Department of Government Efficiency team appears to be casting aside long-established protections over the handling of sensitive data as President Donald Trump shakes up the U.S. bureaucracy.
One of the three people familiar with the matter, who has knowledge of DOGE’s activities, said Musk's team was using a customized version of the Grok chatbot. The apparent aim was for DOGE to sift through data more efficiently, this person said. “They ask questions, get it to prepare reports, give data analysis.”
The second and third person said DOGE staff also told Department of Homeland Security officials to use it even though Grok had not been approved within the department. Reuters could not determine the specific data that had been fed into the generative AI tool or how the custom system was set up. Grok was developed by xAI, a tech operation that Musk launched in 2023 on his social media platform, X.
If the data was sensitive or confidential government information, the arrangement could violate security and privacy laws, said five specialists in technology and government ethics.
It could also give the Tesla and SpaceX CEO access to valuable nonpublic federal contracting data at agencies he privately does business with or be used to help train Grok, a...
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“What really bothers them is that GROK is finding all their fraud, theft and incompetence.”
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What really bothers many conservatives is allowing Musk to put what is effectively a computer virus deep within the federal government data files.
GROK has no history or track record for accuracy, and we haven’t seen any real evidence from DOGE, just press releases unsupported by data or context.
I’ll add this to the list of things I’m not at all concerned about.
Every post of yours sounds like a New York Times editorial.
Are you an AI?
You're one of those instant-gratification types, aren't ya?
“Every post of yours sounds like a New York Times editorial.
Are you an AI?”
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If you think anything I’ve ever posted sounds like an NYT editorial, you haven’t read many NYT editorials.We all have opinions, and yours are no better than anyone else’s.
Real conservatives want not only fiscal restraint, but also want the Constitution upheld and our laws enforced. There’s never been anything liberal about that, but I understand how our “market anarchists” and other vandals would see it that way.
“You’re one of those instant-gratification types, aren’t ya?”
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Not at all, which is why it’s important not to let our wishes exceed constitutional, legal, and moral norms.
That’s what real conservatism has always been about. Read Russell Kirk or Edmund Burke. They created modern conservatism.
The left has torn the Constitution to shreds—and used lawfare against us.
What we have now is anarcho tyranny:
https://chroniclesmagazine.org/view/anarcho-tyranny-u-s-a/
Apparently you like it that way.
“The left has torn the Constitution to shreds—and used lawfare against us.
What we have now is anarcho tyranny:
https://chroniclesmagazine.org/view/anarcho-tyranny-u-s-a/
Apparently you like it that way.”
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I like having the Constitutional norms established over the last 250 years to remain unmolested, and expect the laws we have will be enforced by EVERYONE in our state and federal governments. That doesn’t mean we ignore the laws we don’t like, nor does it mean threatening our own government and educational institutions.
If you’re fighting anarcho-tyranny, your focus on the USA is misplaced. You should be far more concerned with China, Russia, and Iran.
I have a suggestion for you.
Carefully go through every word of the Constitution and then honestly assess whether it applies in full to all citizens today.
Most of it does not. The left has destroyed it in the real world.
“What really bothers many conservatives is allowing Musk to put what is effectively a computer virus deep within the federal government data files.
GROK has no history or track record for accuracy, and we haven’t seen any real evidence from DOGE, just press releases unsupported by data or context.”
Absolutely. This is a HUGE red flag NO MATTER WHO DID IT! He has absolutely no right or business doing this. He is literally taking over our government data systems and replacing them with his own private Corporation systems.
As a techy I refuse to support or accept this as Ok “just cause Trump”. It is a huge double edged Sword. I have said it from the beginning, this is absolutely wrong and should not be allowed to happen “in the fashion” that it is. Is anyone actually stupid enough to think he “will not” leave residuals of his software control and backdoors when he is done?
You bet, he just added our government databases and information to his personal Corporate Database... And that is EXACTLY why he OFFERED to do this “for the people”. He has ulterior motives... He always did from the start when he claimed to flip from Dem to Pub. It was all a set up from the start to get his foot in the door to do this.
Why? He is building the ultimate human surveillance and control network for the Globalist New World Order. His goal is to personally rule the world with Technology and Databases on each individual. He is literally building Skynet.
That is complete and utter nonsense.
DOGE/GROK has read-only access. They are not "taking over" anything.
You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading such mindless garbage that you made up from whole cloth.
And you are too blindly trusting. Musk is an opportunist like all businessmen. His first order and priority is money and power. He has the money, now he is trying to achieve the power...
You can absolutely bet this is not read only... You can bet this is being gathered up and sent to his Corporate systems to be analyzed. And you can also bet they are keeping a copy...
Look you can trust Musk if you like. But I have been on top of him for years now and he is a lying untrustworthy opportunist. And I can prove every bit of it. But now is not the time because it will get me killed... Or worse yet, my family...
It says, without evidence.
AI does not need to rush to kill you—time is on their side.
Lol.
Yeah, sure he is...eye roll
Are read only truly only one way? There are no requests? There is no parsing? There is never any caching? There is never opportunity to have the request results go to two different handlers and/or ports?
You evidently do not understand the meaning of the term "read-only" access.
Define it for me, please.
BREAKING: Chief Justice John Roberts issued a temporary administrative stay halting lower court orders that required the DOGE to comply with FOIA requests and related discovery.
You can’t make changes without the proper credentials to do so. Since Musk is injecting his unique proprietary software into these databases to read them does that give him admin rights to edit also? Who is monitoring it in fine detail to make sure that is actually the case? Or are we just trusting his word without auditing his work and software?
How do YOU KNOW he is being truthful and straight up? Because he says so?
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