Posted on 05/22/2025 9:13:50 AM PDT by marshmallow
Russian armed forces are actively working to accomplish this task, the Russian leader stated
MOSCOW, May 22. /TASS/. A decision has been made to establish a security buffer zone along the Russia-Ukraine border, Russian troops are currently engaged in implementing this initiative, President Vladimir Putin announced during a meeting with government officials.
"We have approved the creation of a necessary security buffer zone along our borders. Our armed forces are actively working to accomplish this task," Putin stated.
He emphasized that, given the recent developments in the Kursk, Belgorod, and Bryansk regions, immediate efforts are required to restore and rebuild areas affected by recent events. This includes assisting local residents in returning to their native villages, provided security conditions allow. Furthermore, it is essential to rehabilitate transportation networks and other infrastructure, ensure the smooth operation of industrial and agricultural enterprises, and support entrepreneurs and their employees.
Sounds like a plan to fall back, but who knows with all the lies from both sides.
At least the distance of the West’s long range missiles...
Also foreseeable.
IMHO:
They will want no NATO expansion, nor troops from NATO countries even if not under the NATO banner in Ukraine. That’s their #1 military threat, which is unbelievable to many in the West since we of course see ourselves as always right and the good guys.
They will want to keep most of the ethnic Russian areas they have seized (always their goal once the war started) It was historically theirs. They built many of these areas up in the Cold War era (the industrial area in the Donbas or Mariupol for example). Most the people there identify as Russian. They paid a high price to seize these lands.
The establishment of a buffer (demilitarized) zone.
The establishment of some sort of inspection regime (they will easily accept the same for Ukraine’s benefit).
The creation of a mechanism to address infractions or problems.
Not true. Donetsk and Luhansk have majority Ukrainian populations; Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are 80% Ukrainian. Only Crimea has a ethnic Russian population.
bkmk
So you get an agreement on Ukraine. What is to stop the Russians from moving their troops into Belarus right up to the Polish Border.
Whatever you get with Ukraine, the same must apply to Belarus, or it’s moot.
He thinks, because his generals have told him so, that they will take the city of Sumy and the rest of the region.
Putin and Russia, can create a DMZ within Russian territory.
Take 20 miles of the Russian side of the border, and call it a DMZ to which no western forces or people can enter.
No need for Ukrainian land to be involved. Russia has a lot more land to spare than Ukraine.
Yeah, which version of ukraine?
Developments like this don’t happen overnight. Odds very high Trump was briefed on this last week.
Except for Crimes, none of the oblasts of Ukraine occupied by Moscow were ever ethnically Russian. The majority considered themselves ethnically Ukrainian
And “it was historically theirs”, so I guess you want to give back Texas, California etc to Mexico as it eas historically theirs?
Try to use the demographic (ethnic self identified), election, and linguistic information pre-2022, before Kiev starting flooding the web with their version of the truth which shows how even the Crimea wants to be Ukrainian, with the maps often being in blue and yellow of course.
1.) Look at the linguistic maps.
https://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/languagemap.png
https://translatorswithoutborders.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Ukraine-Language-Map.png
2.) Look at the election maps.
https://inteltoday.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/image-2.png
3.) Look at the ethnic self identified maps.
https://artpictures.club/autumn-2023.html
These maps tell a different story.
Ukraine is ~1/5 ethnic Russian, BUT that population is concentrated in the Eastern areas which at different times also were part of Russia.
Here’s something NO ONE in the MSM talks about. It don’t fit their pro-Ukrainian nationalist narrative.
The per capita income in Ukraine in 2025 is about $6,200 per year. The per capita income in Russia is about $14,300 per year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita (IMF, World Bank and UN data) Guess where many people actually choose to live or want to be aligned with, contrary to what we pretend is the case in the West? Why do you think so many people from South of the border try to come to the US? Same thing.
Donetsk: Ukrainians, 57%; Russians, 38%Nor are these numbers some sort of new invention. They correspond to numbers reported in previous Soviet censuses. So can we put to rest the false claim that these are ethnic Russian provinces?
Luhansk: Ukrainians, 58%; Russians, 39%
Zaporizhzhia: Ukrainians, 71%; Russians, 25%
Kherson: Ukrainians, 82%; Russians, 14%
Ask if what we did to Mexico is right? The answer is no.
We did steal the land from them.
Just because I live here and benefit from the status quo doesn’t mean I’m going to lie about it.
What really happened? The Mexicans fought for their independence against Spain (11 years of war) and then from France which swooped in and wanted to take over what Spain once controlled. France at that time was a world power and it was a difficult struggle for Mexico. Mexico was weak after that (depleted) and somewhat in disarray as they figured out how to self govern. That’s when we invaded. Later, France tried to come into Mexico again, that was about the same time of the US Civil War (after we already took 40% of Mexico and made it ours).
We came in and annexed their land in the Mexican-American war. We don’t even pretend or fabricate some BS excuse for this (not sure what your point is), we readily admit it was a “land-grab” (Manifest Destiny): https://www.history.com/articles/mexican-american-war
We took a huge chunk of Mexico: https://cdn.thecollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/mexico-united-states-map-1846.jpg?width=1400&quality=70
Don’t do what so many other people think they must do in order to be patriotic or feel good about themselves. Wrong is wrong, even if it’s your own country, race, church, branch of service, family, military unit, sports team, political party...
Loyalty should be to certain ideas and principals - not any individual or even flag, group, etc. When people are asking you to be loyal (((to them))), to turn off your brain, to over-ride time proven and consistent ideas as expressed in the Bible or US Constitution, it’s normally a bad sign (run away!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5E7WR8TINI
Sure, everyone wants to be a Ukrainian and fight until the last man for this democracy.
Got it.
That is a false comparison.
The US Mexican war was 150+ years ago. Not relevant to today.
Your statement that Russia has more claim to Donetsk means that you believe Texas should be handed over to Mexico
I may personally benefit from how things are today, but that does not make it right.
The land my house is built on, was taken away from Mexico, by force, for no other reason than us wanting to expand and annex it. Unless you want to pretend like us invading and taking 40% of Mexico’s land as part of our “manifest destiny” was some act of self defense. LOL
What I did write is that the annexation happened in the 1800s, in a completely different and more violent era.
If you allow Putin to restart that era of land acquisition by countries by force, then you open up a giant can of worms
Just since Post Cold War:
Is it Russia or the US that occupies Iraq to this day?
Is it Russia or the US that sponsored the coups in Ukraine 2014?
Is it Russia or the US that sponsored the coups in Venezuela 2020, and were caught red handed doing so (embarrassing - but don’t worry our non-propagandist and watchdog media didn’t report on this much)?
Is it Russia or the US that attacked Libya 2011?
Is it Russia (a formal ally of Syria since 1970) or the US that injected themselves into Syria 2014?
Is it Russia or the US which backs the Jordanian regime, a kingdom where they torture people, no elections, no free speech...
Is it Russia or the US that started arming and helping radical Muslim types in Syria to fight against Russia once the more moderate forces that started the rebellion against Assad were depleted?
Is it Russia or the US that bombed Serbia into submission and forced them to give up part of their real estate to create a “made up” republic Bosnia Herzegovina?
Is it Russia or the US which back the Saudi Regime, where people get hacked apart, which assassinates Western journalists that dare write something derogatory about them?
Is it Russia or the US that is talking about violating the sovereign air, land and sea space of a neighbor and NAFTA member for pure political reasons (war on drugs: an abject failure since Nixon but a Republican hot topic):
Is it Russia or the US which backs the Moroccan regime which invades its neighbors?
No, it’s not a more peaceful era.
The average American simply does not know nor care what is going on. They are entertained with sports, porn, corny Hollywood movies, computer games and a news which is dominated by pop culture, woke, and subtle advertising pretending to be news (the new Iphone is out, Disney has a new ride, it’s the worst flu season ever make sure to take your vaccine...)
Our operational tempo post Cold War increased (more than doubled), even though the threat went away, how can that be?
US policy makers quickly realized that as the only remaining super-power, we can act with impunity and use military force in furthering our political and/or economic interests.
We are quick to bomb, invade, sponsor a coups, break treaties, lie and cheat, and because the average American is not directly impacted by this, it’s not even perceived anymore and our policy makers have become belligerent. Promises made by predecessors do not count.
With no real near peer (China is now just emerging as a near peer), Atlantic and Pacific oceans, Euro and Pacific buffer nations, our massive military and intel service, there are no consequences for the average American except maybe economically through some inflation and a small minority population (~1%) that is in the DoD or intel service that gets a higher risk exposure. For 99% of America, they live in the Matrix.
We are no better or worse than anyone else. Human nature is the same everywhere and throughout time. The only thing which was somewhat unique about us, which made us special, was our Constitution and the rights which our citizens enjoyed, but we no longer really abide by these principals. Government has broken free from its historical Constitutional restraints. Humans are inherently full of sin: i.e. Greed, Pride, Sloth, Gluttony, Lust, Wrath and Envy. That said, someone wise once said: ‘Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.’ (Lord Acton: https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/absolute-power-corrupts-absolutely.html) We are very powerful today.
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